Exhaust for best power 240sx single exit??
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Exhaust for best power 240sx single exit??
I am building an ls1 240sx. It will be n/a with a trex cam for now, might hit it with a small shot if im close to doing something cool but i doubt it. I am going to be using hinson longtubes that have 3'' exits. I was planning on doing a y pipe with the 3s going into a single 3.5 all the way out. I know the 3.5 would be a little over kill for now but on my next setup i am planning an lq4 based stroker with a blower and will probably need it.
Will i hurt the power of the current setup by going that big right now?
Whats the best set up for the power i am going to have this time around(450ish)?
What will be good for an f1 later?
I am more concerned with the current set up cause if i like it i may never change it, but i would like the ability to build a 3.5'' exhaust if it isnt going to hurt me to bad now. On another note, a 3in 3 out y pipe can be made much cheaper and a 3 inch exhaust can be bought for cheap...so i might be better to just do 3 now and change it later?????
Thanks a ton guys!
Will i hurt the power of the current setup by going that big right now?
Whats the best set up for the power i am going to have this time around(450ish)?
What will be good for an f1 later?
I am more concerned with the current set up cause if i like it i may never change it, but i would like the ability to build a 3.5'' exhaust if it isnt going to hurt me to bad now. On another note, a 3in 3 out y pipe can be made much cheaper and a 3 inch exhaust can be bought for cheap...so i might be better to just do 3 now and change it later?????
Thanks a ton guys!
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WOW.
come on guys.
I have never in my life had an n/a car and i have heard there is a certain amount of back pressure that can help and etc. Harmonics and exhaust pulses?????
Or does it not matter, would open headers net the best overall gains. If so i can figure it out from there. I just didnt know many people other than 240sx guys running a single exit.
come on guys.
I have never in my life had an n/a car and i have heard there is a certain amount of back pressure that can help and etc. Harmonics and exhaust pulses?????
Or does it not matter, would open headers net the best overall gains. If so i can figure it out from there. I just didnt know many people other than 240sx guys running a single exit.
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why not run dual, if you are trying to keep it stock looking, i ran both tips to the same side, here's a pic
the only problem that i think you might have running duals, is I put the mufflers where the fuel tank was, I'm about to dyno the car with full exhaust and with just open headers, trying to see if installing cut outs is worth it, but got to fix my broken clutch first, so i pass along that info if you want, my sig, has what's in my 240.
the only problem that i think you might have running duals, is I put the mufflers where the fuel tank was, I'm about to dyno the car with full exhaust and with just open headers, trying to see if installing cut outs is worth it, but got to fix my broken clutch first, so i pass along that info if you want, my sig, has what's in my 240.
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IMO a 3.5 will be a good size for the setup you have initially planned, if you can have a custom y built with a good flowing merge like the flowmaster or qtp merge and the like than a single 3.5 will save you weight and space over duals.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/7248595-post9.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/2987587-post19.html
According to that last link 450rwhp w/ 15% drivetrain loss should equate to 529hp at the crank which puts you in the range for a 3.5 exhaust. This is all what ive gotten from this site so if im wrong others please feel free to correct me.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/7248595-post9.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/2987587-post19.html
According to that last link 450rwhp w/ 15% drivetrain loss should equate to 529hp at the crank which puts you in the range for a 3.5 exhaust. This is all what ive gotten from this site so if im wrong others please feel free to correct me.
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Here's one seller that is awesome to work with.
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Here's one seller that is awesome to work with.
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The calculator says that 3.5" has a 9.61" cross section area. (Pi * R squared) This is slightly less the equivalent of dual 2.5s which has an cross sectional area of 9.81. However, there will be less wall friction so I would consider a single 3.5" pipe equal in flow to 2.5" duals.
As for pulse waves, I would not worry about it too much unless you are trying to extract every last pony. If you are that person, most dyno tuning experts will recommend a break out box 18" past your header collectors. This will create a tuned wave termination point for your headers similar to open exhaust with an 18" collector extension which racers generally claim to be ideal. You could use these for your break out box: http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/sh...=&orig=9430109
Or, you could build some.
As for pulse waves, I would not worry about it too much unless you are trying to extract every last pony. If you are that person, most dyno tuning experts will recommend a break out box 18" past your header collectors. This will create a tuned wave termination point for your headers similar to open exhaust with an 18" collector extension which racers generally claim to be ideal. You could use these for your break out box: http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/sh...=&orig=9430109
Or, you could build some.