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Old 10-29-2011, 10:34 PM
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Default Dynamax headers scrape in lowered first gens!

So I installed GW L16 1 1/2" lowering rear springs in my 68 camaro because the JCW springs for some reason had the car looking like a joe dirt special - too much rake. I have Hotchkiss lowering springs in the front, I want to say 2".

Problem: The dynatech headers I installed in the LQ4 will get scraped more than a fisherman's knuckle. They were about 2 1/2" off the ground, with the new rear springs, like 1 - 1 1/2".
I love the stance, hate the scrape. I'm putting some half inch spring spacers in the front (which will raise the front an inch), maybe that will help a tad.
So let this be a lesson to you all: dynamax headers hang like 3 1/2" below the subframe of a first gen. If your car is lowered, be prepared to driver VERRRY slow over speed bumps.
I know Tony had this problem.
I might replace the headers, but then I will have clearance problems with exhaust hitting the x-member. We'll see how the spacers work.

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that seams to be Dynamaxs' glaring problem. The bright side is you have a pair of headers to model new ones from. Just a few inches shorter.
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You mean dynatechs, right? Mine scrape some too.
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does anyone have some headers that dont scrape without spending thousands? my car just clears my 18" rims..
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
that seams to be Dynamaxs' glaring problem. The bright side is you have a pair of headers to model new ones from. Just a few inches shorter.
1) If I did this, the 2.5" exhaust would hit my PATC transmission x-member. I think there is about an inch or two of clearance there.
2) Could I have an exhaust shop shorten these headers by cutting them while in the car? I don't really want to pull the headers.
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Originally Posted by futureuser
You mean dynatechs, right? Mine scrape some too.
Yes. I'm an idiot.
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This is just an idea, and may not help a whole lot- can you shim the trans tail shaft up at all? This should bring the headers up just a bit. You may have to re-do the pipes at the collectors. I am going to try these headers on my 68 firebird with hotchkis springs. Any pics of how far they hang down?
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Originally Posted by SS69LS1
This is just an idea, and may not help a whole lot- can you shim the trans tail shaft up at all? This should bring the headers up just a bit. You may have to re-do the pipes at the collectors. I am going to try these headers on my 68 firebird with hotchkis springs. Any pics of how far they hang down?
Scott
Shimming would mess with my drive line angles. Transmission is down two degrees right now which is perfect. I really think I'm just going to swap for mid lengths. Only problem is going to be my crossmember. I'm going to take more pictures today.
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Shimming would mess with my drive line angles. Transmission is down two degrees right now which is perfect. I really think I'm just going to swap for mid lengths. Only problem is going to be my crossmember. I'm going to take more pictures today.
Also, if I do decide to go to mids, would you be interested in purchasing my headers? I'll knock $100 off what I paid for them. The additional advantage to this is that it takes like 6 weeks to get them from dynatech. I'll know next weekend for sure whether I'm keeping these headers, so let me know if you're interested.
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Mine, could come up a couple of inches and still clear the patc crossmember.
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Future is your car lowered?
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Originally Posted by futureuser
You mean dynatechs, right? Mine scrape some too.
Yup. I though it didn't sound correct. LOL.
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I got stainless works headers I bought from pro touring store,they don't hang that low!they are a little tight on the power steering but they worked out good!i paid around $800
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Be careful with the SW headers. I have the forward position mounts and bought a set they hit on the steering box and the idler arm. I took them off only to notice a hole in one of the welds at the flange. I called them up and offered to help them fix up their header so they would fit on basically any conversion. They said it would cost me $3k for a set of custom headers. Needless to say I went with some Kooks TBSS headers for about the same price. The quality difference is not even close. Kooks uses thick welds and makes a very nice header.
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Default Gen 1 Dynatech Header Clearance

The lowest part (header flange) of my Dynatechs is just a smudge over 2 1/4" below the bottom of the subframe, which is about the same (or even a bit less) than some of the SBC Gen 1 cars around here.

So far, no scrapes but it's probably not as low as yours as you can see in this link.. https://ls1tech.com/forums/chevrolet...071-lives.html

I believe that I had said the motor mounts were Energy Suspension, but they are actually Prothane SBC standard height mounts.

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Originally Posted by rp0029
Future is your car lowered?
About 3 inches from stock. I have gotten used to the occasional scrape and the headers are holding up well. I don't actually regret buying them, given my other options at the moment.

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I have hotchkiss 2" front drop springs (part no 19830012) and just installed the global west L16 1 1/5" lowering rear springs. Edelbrock IAS shocks all around. I must have the wrong mounts/frame stands or something, because look at this crap:





I'm going to try raising the front 1" with spacers, and if I still scrape a lot I am going to swap out some mid length headers or something. Before the lowering rear springs (think joe dirt) the exhaust was a bit low, but this is just too crazy.
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Man thats horrible. Maybe I'll be going with some mid-lengths.... I went with stainless works on my 69, but this firebird build is on a tight budget. Scott
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Wow that's crazy low!
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So what headers would you guys go for? I really want long tubes, do any tuck nicely?


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