Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rebuilding Dad's Panoz; LS1 swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-09-2012, 10:46 PM
  #41  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Snap goes the crankshaft. The mains are all intact, rods banged up but all intact as well.




Old 08-10-2012, 11:20 AM
  #42  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

What crankshaft was that? Forged?

That is alot of carnage!
Old 08-10-2012, 11:38 AM
  #43  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Scat 4340 forged steel.
Old 08-10-2012, 01:14 PM
  #44  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (88)
 
the_merv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Beach...
Posts: 19,260
Received 58 Likes on 51 Posts

Default

Dang.....
Old 08-10-2012, 10:42 PM
  #45  
On The Tree
iTrader: (28)
 
rickyzZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New Phila, OH
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Wow that thing is destroyed. What RPM were you turning when it let loose?
Old 08-10-2012, 11:42 PM
  #46  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Over 5500 top of 4th at VIR on the back straight. It's my father's car and he was driving. My car is in my avatar.
Old 08-11-2012, 01:34 AM
  #47  
Teching In
 
lordvs666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: FL.
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wow, im at a lost of words. But that Panoz is a very interesting car.
Old 08-12-2012, 08:48 PM
  #48  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Finally got the chassis completely stripped. Ready for a power-washing then going to do some welding and then off to the powdercoater.





Old 08-12-2012, 08:52 PM
  #49  
Staging Lane
 
73AMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yike, any fire associated with that? Glad he is ok.
Old 08-12-2012, 09:02 PM
  #50  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

No fire... not a very dramatic death. Just a thud then nothing. No warning, oil pressure was fine.
Old 08-13-2012, 01:08 PM
  #51  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (88)
 
the_merv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Beach...
Posts: 19,260
Received 58 Likes on 51 Posts

Default

That's pretty cool..bare bones..lol.
Old 08-13-2012, 02:10 PM
  #52  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I see it as a blank canvas... can't wait to get it all purtied up in shiny white powdercoat.
Old 08-19-2012, 08:32 PM
  #53  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Chassis degreased and powerwashed. Doesn't look like much but getting all the adhesive residue from the old heat insulation on the tub was a chore. Time for welding. Going to weld up all the holes from the rivets that held on the old heat insulation panels, weld in a proper harness bar, and relocate the steering column a little etc.



Old 08-20-2012, 08:52 PM
  #54  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

TKO 600 and QuickTime bellhousing from Liberty Gears showed up today

Old 08-20-2012, 09:17 PM
  #55  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Rocketrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Metamora, IL
Posts: 540
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post

Default

I can't recall ever seeing an engine come apart like that. The chassis is looking good, can't wait to see it powdercoated.
Old 08-20-2012, 10:16 PM
  #56  
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
btlegacy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NC
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That is a lot of carnage on that crank. Looking forward to see this come together
Old 08-30-2012, 08:29 AM
  #57  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Been doing lots of welding getting it ready for powdercoat. Lots of old rivet holes... about 2/3rds done. Plus more parts have come in.






Fortes plugs for the speedometer sensors. The driver's side is the mechanical gauge port and the passenger side is for electronic (If you haven't figured it out... not running a speedometer).



Powermaster 1-wire mini racing alternator with mount kit for a Ford 9"... still have to work on pulley alignment.


Kevko trap-door road race pan
Old 08-30-2012, 07:03 PM
  #58  
TECH Fanatic
 
oldgoat69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts

Default

When I owned my machine shop I witnessed a few similar failures in SBF road race applications using solid mounts. At first we saw the freeze plugs fall out then the blocks split. I believe that a combination of solid engine mounts and a cushioned trans mount, along with a bit of chassis flex was the culprit. The ford block is just not rigid enough in that area. I have not seen the same result in a drag car until you hit about 600 hp, then they split down the main line.
Old 08-31-2012, 08:45 AM
  #59  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

FWIW we didn't use any solid mounts in our application. Stock rubber mounts on the engine and trans actually. Putting poly stuff in with the LS1 swap.

Replaced the LS1 springs with GMPP LS6/2/3 springs and installed Smith Brothers restricted flow pushrods... shiny new stuff...


Old 09-03-2012, 09:04 PM
  #60  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Cobra4B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 1,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Took a break from welding and got a fair amount done on the engine. Time to take a break and tear into the Z06 to replace the cam/lifters in prep for October's VIR event.

Horsefly that flew into one of the oil returns in the head when doing the springs. Found dead on top of the windage tray.


Later LS1 blocks are apparently drilled for LS2 chain dampers. Amazingly the local Chevy dealer had one in stock so I could move forward putting stuff back together.


Custom pickup that comes with the new pan hooked up to a LS4 high volume oil pump.


Kevko pan installed.


Timing cover and ATI damper hub installed.


Hub pinned.


Water pump heater core/pressure tank ports threaded and plugged.


Drilled and tapped the Edelbrock valley cover for another crankcase vent port (comes with a boss for doing this). Still have to get a 1/4 NPT to 3/8 hose barb to thread into the elbow.


Starting to look like an engine again.


Quick Reply: Rebuilding Dad's Panoz; LS1 swap



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:42 AM.