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Old 12-22-2012, 02:53 PM
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All that tedious work was worth it. Car turned out fantastic thanks to Precision Powdercoating (www.precision-powder-coat.com)





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Redid the swaybar arms as well as painting the engine mount adapters and tie rod sleeves.

Derustifying


Derustified


Nothing like freshly BBQ'd car parts (engine mount adapters, tie rod end sleeves, swaybar arms)...


Fresh off the grill done in 2000 degree Rustoleum
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Wow what a build!!!!
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Spent the weekend restoring rest of the front suspension components. A wire wheel on my bench grinder made quick work of removing the old paint. Cleaned and painted with 2000 degree primer then 2000 degree "flat aluminum" paint. Baked everything I could fit on the grill to cure. Will post a few more shots when the suspension is all together.

Before on the left, stripped on the right...


After


Suspension coming together. New balljoints and a mixture of new and cleaned up hardware. I love my wirewheel


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Where did you guys get this thing? I would love to have a project like that
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Originally Posted by Snkebait95
Where did you guys get this thing? I would love to have a project like that
Panoz used to have 3 racing schools: Texas Motor Speedway, Road Atlanta, and Sebring. My father and I actually went to the one at Road Atlanta back in 2003. It was my college graduation present and his surprise 25th anniversary present from my mother. He thought he was going to hang out with me and had no idea he was signed up.

In 2007 Panoz sold off the racing school operations to Barber Motorsports. Barber races Mazdas and switched to Miatas for the schools. As such, all the Panoz school cars went up for sale and blowout prices. The car had the paint job, but it was fairly ratty with a stock EFI 5.0 (185ish rwhp), a basic Tremec 3550, and set up to push bad (easier for a novice to control). You could also buy the same car from Panoz with a 4.6 DOHC Ford motor or one called the GTS with a 5.8 liter carbed SBF.

My father was in the market for a C5 track/race car at the time so I was on the lookout for him. I stumbled across the Panoz cars being for sale and it just made sense. The cars are very robust and a good design, the issue over the years is that it needed an OCD refresh... which is what I'm doing now
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Cool i hope to see some awesome videos of it, subscribed
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Badass conversion thats all I can say!
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BADASS.

Very cool man. Still planning on using those heavy weight flowmasters? Figure you don't wanna add power due to your restrictions with weight but, it would be an easy way to drop some weight off the car if you went with lighter, straight through bullet mufflers. Should also get rid of some heat in those areas, if it mattered.

Looks like you thought of everything already though already based on what I read.

Tight work man. Way to help out POP's.
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Flowmasters are going away... re-doing the side pipes depends on which manifolds I end up using. I wanted to use some BBK C5 shorties, but the outlet may be too low to the point it interferes with the rear part of the lower control arm (called the brake strut rod). Basic F-body shorties would put the collector higher and more toward the rear which is how the SBF shorties were, but they don't flow as well. Might have some headers made to copy the headers that came on the Panoz GTS (Headman used to make them). After I get that figured out I can re-do the side-pipes and use a basic Magnaflow straight-through muffler.

When the car had the stock 5.0 it was really slow and really loud... you'd be on the straights so long the noise got annoying. Tried to make it as quiet as possible by ditching the cherry-bombs for the Flowmasters. Actually... we just told the shop to make it quiet and that's what they came up with.

Car will be faster and the loud doesn't bother my father so it'll be loud again.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Flowmasters are going away... re-doing the side pipes depends on which manifolds I end up using. I wanted to use some BBK C5 shorties, but the outlet may be too low to the point it interferes with the rear part of the lower control arm (called the brake strut rod). Basic F-body shorties would put the collector higher and more toward the rear which is how the SBF shorties were, but they don't flow as well. Might have some headers made to copy the headers that came on the Panoz GTS (Headman used to make them). After I get that figured out I can re-do the side-pipes and use a basic Magnaflow straight-through muffler.

When the car had the stock 5.0 it was really slow and really loud... you'd be on the straights so long the noise got annoying. Tried to make it as quiet as possible by ditching the cherry-bombs for the Flowmasters. Actually... we just told the shop to make it quiet and that's what they came up with.

Car will be faster and the loud doesn't bother my father so it'll be loud again.
Sweet. For the headers, maybe truck based shorty manifolds may help. Won't be super HIGH hp setups but, they may be what you are looking for. I have a set(not really selling them) but I can place them next to any number of factory manifolds I have laying around for comparisons sake.
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Truck next to F-body would be awesome... hadn't even thought about using the truck ones. Are they symmetrical on each side? On of the things that bugs me is how the F-body ones are different side to side.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Truck next to F-body would be awesome... hadn't even thought about using the truck ones. Are they symmetrical on each side? On of the things that bugs me is how the F-body ones are different side to side.


The f body ones,..I may,..or may not have. What I know that I have is:

C6/truck/truck with V bands/and a JBA or edelbrock shorty tubular truck kit.

Let me see what I have near me,..the other stuff may be in my storage place, which if I am local this weekend, I will go grab and take pictures of, if I am out of town, it will be a min. But, I know several of those are near me now.

Let me go and see what I have if I can get away from my desk in the next few, i'll try and upload to photobucket asap.
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Much appreciated... no rush... have a couple more weeks of work before I need to get on that part. Might get lucky and find the C5 shorties I have will work.
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Nice. I'll get on it asap.
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Measure twice, cut once... majority of the heat shielding is complete. Much cleaner than the previous panels. Lighter too.





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awesome swap!
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Awesome pic.


I went out back the other day and grabbed my closest manifolds that I had, snapped pics,..uploaded them,..they never uploaded. Uploading again right now,...i'll edit this post asap.

I believe they're truck manifolds, but honestly, one looks weird to me, almost like an f body setup. I honestly can't remember. Also, in pics, either C6 or cts-v manifolds(2nd gen)....again, can't remember....its been so long. If all else fails, they all have part numbers which I can find out what their from.

Also, in pics, a set of shorty, tublar manifold truck headers.

Just checked,..here's what uploaded so far..

tubular



And I am pretty sure these are trucks,...but they have a fake cast egr port. Like an egr goes there but it was never tapped,...due to the probable delivery state




..more pics to come.(tried to rotate those, didn't work,..pissing me off)










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Ordered new swaybar bushings from Panoz and found them to have more play in the inner diameter than the ones I took off the car. The bar is 1.250", the ID of the ones I took off the car with some wear was 1.265-1.275", and the ID of the brand new ones was 1.280-1.285". I ended up wrapping the ends of the bar in teflon tape to take up any play in the ends; worked great.

Cleaned up the brake lines and t-fitting that came off the car. I really think they painted these cars after they put them mostly together as everything seems to have black paint on it. I initially thought the front lines were just dirty, but it was dirt and black paint. Purchased a new firewall-to-t-fitting line from Panoz as the one on the car had been bent around so mmany times it looked like a wet noodle. Also, it was held in place with a zip-tie vs. the adel clamps and tek screws the Panoz assembly manual recommends.






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