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Old 07-03-2012, 07:47 PM
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I suppose I should throw this up. The turbo 7m was good while it lasted but couldnt hold up to the abuse the car was getting. So I decided to do an Lq4 Swap.
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Stock Lq4
Th400 with shiftkit
Ati 3500 stall convertor with anti balooning plate
Factory 4:30 Lsd
Ls1 intake and injectors
3" Core Alum rad w/ 14" twin fans
The plan for right now is to just get it running then probably going with L92's and Ls3 intake with something like an ms4 cam. Anyways heres a couple pics.

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Old 07-04-2012, 10:36 AM
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Nice build. I would suggest not joining any Supra forums, though. Lol.
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Originally Posted by Stinger22009
Nice build. I would suggest not joining any Supra forums, though. Lol.
Yeah, if it isn't a 7MGTE, 1/2JZGTE, or a 1/2/3UZFE they aren't usually interested. Funny enough, some of the baddest Supras I've ever seen were non Toyota engine swaps.
Old 07-04-2012, 11:59 AM
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Yeah i get alot of **** since ive been a supra guy for quite a few years haha. eventually i will prob go with a big single setup, but for right now im gonna work with what i have. Thanks guys
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My friend has a twin charged 87. It's pretty crazy.
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Friend of mine has a 87 MK3 with an on going 2JZ (no ****) swap. Says it is going to be a drift car... with 18x10.5's on all 4 corners.... see what happens.

Good luck with the build!
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Had my *** handed to me by a TT Supra a few years back ....Would love to see a TT LSx Supra :hint-hint: LOL

Looks good so far
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Originally Posted by Chrome_Rust
2JZ (no ****)
I saw what you did there....nice reference! My buddy and I do that also, we also add "right" when we say Tuscon.... "tuscon, right?
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Huh, I must have been doing something wrong with tuning the 92 supra 7MGTE I had with mild head work, hybrid CT26, fuel pressure and boost controller because it only put down 486rwhp and 519ft/bls

The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance

Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.

98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
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Where did you get your mounts from?
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Originally Posted by cwbyinjeep
Huh, I must have been doing something wrong with tuning the 92 supra 7MGTE I had with mild head work, hybrid CT26, fuel pressure and boost controller because it only put down 486rwhp and 519ft/bls

The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance

Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.

98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
You can definately make power with a 7m, ive been 7m for years, but for what i want to do i dont have built 7m money. so for now atleast, i can have a decent plant n/a and work from there if need be. and the mounts are custom made, but i will say this, they are very simple to make
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I built a LS1 powered 89 Supra. It really is amazing how easily these motors drop into this generation Supra. The motor mounts line up perfectly. The Camaro pan clears everything and the Corvette fuel / filter / regulator even fits in the stock fuel filter location at the rear of the car. CTS-V exhaust manifolds fit almost perfectly. We just milled the mounting flange a little to tuck them in tighter. Also the aluminum LS motor is lighter than the stock engine, sits lower in the chassis, and is almost completely behind the shock towers. Cylinder 1 lines up with the towers. It is a great swap for these cars however as stated before it pisses off the die hard Supra owners.
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Originally Posted by cwbyinjeep
Huh, I must have been doing something wrong with tuning the 92 supra 7MGTE I had with mild head work, hybrid CT26, fuel pressure and boost controller because it only put down 486rwhp and 519ft/bls

The LT1's of the day didn't stand a chance

Then there is Lance at Toyomoto in Miami laying down just under 1000rwhp out of a 7MGTE power plant.

98 TT Supra with the works would is my dream car, too bad they go for supercar prices these days.
Not sure how in the world you made those numbers on a hybrid ct-26. Not even the 60-1 has enough breath to get there.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...epower-List***

The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.

I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.

Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
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Originally Posted by MightyAl
Not sure how in the world you made those numbers on a hybrid ct-26. Not even the 60-1 has enough breath to get there.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...epower-List***

The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.

I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.

Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
Thanks alot guys, yeah the ONLY way i can see him making that kind of power is with basically a 67mm with a ct26 flange to mount on the manifold lol, with a t61 and 16 lbs i made 434whp,, but its almost impossible to keep torque above hp above 350whp. but yeah it really is crazy how nicely these mount up. and thanks for the info on the v manifolds, because that was my next obstical.
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Originally Posted by MightyAl
Not sure how in the world you made those numbers on a hybrid ct-26. Not even the 60-1 has enough breath to get there.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/sho...epower-List***

The 7m is a capable powerplant but at 400+hp things like to break. Rod bearings and headgaskets are a constant problem and then there is no real good way to tune them and piggybacks are only a bandaid. It was a great engine for its time but its time is gone. Back in the day the serious guys always had a built block sitting on the engine stand because they knew they were on borrowed time. Why drop $4k - $5k on a built engine when you can drop an LSx engine in for less then that.

I am in the process of starting my swap. As soon as the the engine sells I have an L33 sitting on a stand ready to drop in. I am going to use the R154 and see how it goes. This will be this cars fifth different engine. It has been 7m, 1j, 2j, and 1uz. The 1uz was the biggest disappointment, man what a turd.

Looks good so far can't wait to see it up and running.
It did involve HKS head gasket and running 26psi on AV gas and conditions were perfect at sea level and 75 degrees (winter in S FL) But for everyday driving on pump gas it was still good for just over 400hp. I used to spank a guy with a 91 supra who had a T4 and pistons, he hated me Same guy who helped me tune and set it up has a 93 Celica Alltrac producing 856whp on an all wheel drive dyno to this very day (also race fuel)

The real secret to my set-up was the head work done by a former Cosworth machinist, using a aeromotive boost reference fuel pressure regulator with a pusher pump and the HKS atom boost controller, everything else was conventional HKS bolt on stuff. The late John Myers of Turbonetics was also instrumental in tuning the CT26 into a good street set-up while keeping reliability, it's the only thing that kept me from popping a bottom end and since it was a daily driver I stayed away from upgrading the turbo at the time.
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The V manifolds we used were first generation I believe. The passenger side flange hit the frame rail so we milled the flange that mounts to the head at a slight angle to tuck them a little tighter to the engine. I worked great and clears everything quite well. Looking at the 5th gen Camaro manifolds I suspect they would work as well and they are probably easier to find.

Oh and for front accessories we used the CTS-V from GMPP that you buy as a kit. They are just under $800 for the whole front setup. However if you want to run A/C buy a Vette bracket and compressor. It will line up with the V accessories but it tucks closer to the block to give you room for the A/C lines.
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Love the V8 swap into Supra chassis!
I'm jealous of your easy drivers side manifold fix to get around the steering shaft, my 83 is getting (an attempted) custom SS headers-basically an inexpensive set of ebay headers chopped and re-fitted around the steering shaft. I've moved the engine behind the front sway bar, so the weight distribution should be nice-sits about 1-1.5" taller on stock 1983 springs.
Now I've just got to get off the posterior and get moving It doesn't help that life and the fact that I have to do everything the hard way is always slowing me down (Excuses!)
Good luck with your swap and keep us posted, it's good motivation.
BTW, tried the 2jzgte-what a boat anchor! It also couldn't stop breaking....parts and the bank.....off to a nice dependable V8.
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I don't want to hijack your thread here but I thought maybe some pics from my build would help you out. I never did a build thread on here so here they are.


Drivers Side CTS-V manifold stock


Passengers Side CTS-V manifold milled to tuck in closer to engine


Motor mounts


Corvette filter / regulator in stock Supra filter location


Simple transmission mount


4th Gen Camaro oil pan clearance to rack
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Thanks alot for the pics,, that helps ALOT. Just ordered the V manifolds. Thanks again
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Originally Posted by Souprasean
Thanks alot for the pics,, that helps ALOT. Just ordered the V manifolds. Thanks again
No problem. Glad I could help. I do want to add that I know we milled the passenger side manifold. I can't really remember about the drivers side. I don't think we did but we might have to gain a little more clearance on the steering shaft. I do know that they did fit without any modification but we milled them to gain more clearance. Plus your engine location might be a factor too although it looks to be pretty much the same location as where we mounted ours. It should get you pretty close anyhow and the manifolds are usually cheap. I think we paid $50 for a pair.

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