Houston_t

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Does the f body pan fit well in the gm a body frame ? I just picked up a 71 cutlass and already have the f body oil pan on my motor but if there is a better fitting pan I will sell mines to get what fits right. Also what mounts work good with either pan ? I have 1" setbacks that I picked up for my 78 T/A will those still work for me? Thanks

99VetteFRC

The mounts should work well. I think the CTS-V pan works with those mounts though. Check my thread, there are pics.

garys 68

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This is a CTS-V pan in my 72 Olds 442. Also using 1" setback mounting plates.
According to the oil pan sticky, the f body extends 1" farther forward, so the f body pan is going to be really close to the crossmember.

Houston_t

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Man were pretty much building the same car, do you have a build thread ?
Looks like I may be selling my pan, it's never even had oil in it yet so it's new still other than being mounted. How much do the CTS V pans go for ?

Houston_t

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Also would I need to change my windage tray and dip stick ?

garys 68

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Good news is F body pans go for $200-250, CTS-V go for about $150. I got mine with dipstick and windage tray. I think the f body pans use a short windage tray, CTS-V use the long ones, same as trucks. Not sure about the dipsticks.
My build:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...442-build.html

Houston_t

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Where did you get your pan from ?

bczee

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The F-body pan is a very tight fit. I tried it on mine before going to the CTS-V pan

You have about 3/8" between the front of pan to the Crossmember and about 3/8" from the Right/Passenger side head and the Firewall. Have to shoehorn it in and out.

I went to the CTS-V cause I didn't like it being so close to the crossmember, I wanted more room and air flowing between.

Here is a picture of the front and crossmember of both the F-body and CTS-V using the same mounts (early BRP style).



BC

garys 68

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I got a new takeoff from the pro-touring board classifieds for $140.
Check the classifieds here, ebay, craigslist, etc.
And if you havn't found it, there's a sticky for A bodies. You might see if anyone squeezed an F body pan in there.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...2-gm-body.html

bczee

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Just did. .that was the first picture... was no fun trying to remove the engine with that pan, had to remove the trans first and muscle it around !

BC

thunderstruck507

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I tried to make the fbody pan work but it would require the engine to set way too far back and getting it in and out was next to impossible.

I ended up trying the Hummer H3 pan (Gm muscle car pan) and it hangs too low. If I had it to do over I would get an aftermarket pan like the Holley or the Autocraft stamped pan. They should both have plenty of clearance without hanging so low...only downside is they are expensive.

Worth it though IMO for a good fit and it's not like it's a wear item you will have to replace (unless there is a major engine malfunction that sends hard parts through it)

rockytopper

A modified F-body pan works great on the A-body. What ever you decide on be aware that many pans have issues with clearing the steering knuckles. The f-body pan doesn't have this issue or at least mine didn't.

downset71

F body pan in a 71 monte. No issues. BRP style homemade mounts. Clears everything. F body exhaust manifolds also.

Gray86hatch

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I like the Holley pan it will allow the engine to come out with out removing the trans. You need just over 2" to get the input shaft out of the clutch.

Tim

Houston_t

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I may just try the f body pan and see how it works out, not worried about having trouble pulling it in and out. Once it's in it will be there a couple years before I can afford any upgrades.

pist0lpete

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BCZEE pretty well covered it. I am running the f-body pan on my 67 but it is a verrry tight fit. For example, my 700r4 kicked the curb and I am having the pull the front clip and the engine and trans together to get it out. I am going back in with a T56 and either changing the pan or modifying the tunnel to allow trans removal by itself. Just my $0.02.

Houston_t

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Are they still selling new cts-v oil pans ?

fox12303

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I posted pictures of Street&Performance's modified f-body pan installed in my 72 Chevelle. My engine has no setback and is pretty much in the stock location. Biggest downside to this pan is expense.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/16661747-post29.html

Has anyone else had any steering issues with any of the pans they are using? I know from personal experience that the GM muscle pan sucks. With the S&P pan above only minor steering linkage issues compared to the GM pan.

garys 68

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Yes, but the PN has changed from what's in the sticky. The LSA pan just has extra bosses on the side for an iol cooler.
You'll also need the pickup tube, correct O ring, windage tray, and maybe dipstick and baffle.
http://sdparts.com/details/gm-factor...parts/12631828