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Old 01-13-2013, 01:35 AM
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After my car sitting pretty much for most of the past 6 months due to it suffering from a "carburetor on the intake manifold" I've finally gotten the car in the shop. I plan to save money by sticking to a drive-by-cable 5.3 and keeping my 700r4. Now that this is finally happening and my car might be reliable enough to take trips longer than 2 miles I'm curious to see what gas mileage I'll get. Since suburbans/silverados get 13 in the city and 17 on the highway and I weigh about 1000 pounds less (about the same aerodynamics) what gas mileage should I get in my Impala? I'm hoping for 20 mpg highway but anything is better than the 10/12 I got on average (except for a freak accident of 14, but that was mostly highway).
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Not sure what kind of mileage you'll get. That 700r4 should help with highway mileage though for sure. I'm planning on swapping a Vortec 5.3 into my 64 also but I'm just sticking with the original powerglide and probably doing a turbo as well while i'm at it. Goodluck with it, and make sure to do a build thread when you start swapping.
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Not sure what kind of mileage you'll get. That 700r4 should help with highway mileage though for sure. I'm planning on swapping a Vortec 5.3 into my 64 also but I'm just sticking with the original powerglide and probably doing a turbo as well while i'm at it. Goodluck with it, and make sure to do a build thread when you start swapping.
I already had the 700r4, that's the reason I didn't buy a 4l60e.
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from my experience (a ls1 5.0l in a 65 impala), plan on getting the original tune for the VATS and rear o2 sensors then when you have everything together get a street tune by a company that does lots of them.

I pulled my hair out with error codes to find out the different exhaust needed a street tune.

I would guess at least 20mpg on the highway, and it will be lighter and faster.

good luck.
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Originally Posted by leon phelps
from my experience (a ls1 5.0l in a 65 impala), plan on getting the original tune for the VATS and rear o2 sensors then when you have everything together get a street tune by a company that does lots of them.

I pulled my hair out with error codes to find out the different exhaust needed a street tune.

I would guess at least 20mpg on the highway, and it will be lighter and faster.

good luck.
20mpg is basically daily driver fuel economy in my book. Should I trade my flowmasters for stock mufflers?
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I send the exhaust out, I was afraid to weld to my nice coated headers. The weld looks like crap, of course.

I wanted quiet, didnt really care about speed or sound. I forget what was put on the car. Ill get under it to see if there is anything on the mufflers.

I know they were 2.5" mufflers though.
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My 64 Biscayne had an LT1 with 4L60E and a flowmaster 2 inch exhaust. The engine was stock and we drove it from New Jersey to Charlotte for a Good Guys Show. Car got around 25 mpg on that trip. With that engine and a 3.31 open rear the car went consistent low 14s. Fun to drive. LS3 going in it soon, though.

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The engine should run fine even with the 700r4 right? Should I do a tune once I get it running so it factors in everything done to it?
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Yes, it will run fine. As others have stated, you may want to consider a 4L60E, if finances permit, as you wont have to worry about hooking up the TV Cable and you can taylor shift points in the PCM.

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Do you think my 11 inch rotor front disc and rear factory drum
Brakes will be up to task of stopping my car still for this swap?
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Do you think my 11 inch rotor front disc and rear factory drum
Brakes will be up to task of stopping my car still for this swap?
Yes, they will. But 4 wheel disc breaks never hurt anybody...

What rear end you have in the car now? 8.5 10 bolt?

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Originally Posted by cbrodine
Yes, they will. But 4 wheel disc breaks never hurt anybody...

What rear end you have in the car now? 8.5 10 bolt?
Stock, which leads me to believe I should probably never floor it, especially since I just replaced the seals, it would suck knowing I spent that money just for a snapped rear end.
I know it's neither of those though.
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good luck with the swap. im doing the similar swap in my 64, I'm still in the process though


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I don't know why more people don't do these swaps. Sure they're expensive but you get street able gas mileage, and (after doing calculations) my 1964 impala should be able to beat a 409 425 horsepower 1964 impala. It'll do this with twice the gas mileage and twice the reliability.
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you can try to reason with car people all you want but they think it is a sacrilege to change anything. Look at the whole bias tire thing, eventually people come around and the hard heads still buy them.

cant wait to see a vid of it running.


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Very cool, nice to see one hot rodded up a little.
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Originally Posted by MrBR
I don't know why more people don't do these swaps. Sure they're expensive but you get street able gas mileage, and (after doing calculations) my 1964 impala should be able to beat a 409 425 horsepower 1964 impala. It'll do this with twice the gas mileage and twice the reliability.
Just finished warching the Barrett-Jackson auctions. One thing I noticed is that the LSX "restro-mods" were bringing pretty good money. About on par with those that had the original engine. So I think the trend is already in place and for the reasons you cited. A lot of those cars were using the GM LS3 package.

Also from the Barrett-Jackson auction it seemed about every fifth car was a Mustang. It also seemed that a good percentage of those were Shelbys.
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If I remove my flow master 40s and replace them with stock mufflers will it affect the tune or not enough to matter? I don't dig drone. I tried them for awhile but I feel like I'm flying a small aircraft.

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Sorry for the self bump but I am really curious about the muffler issue.
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if you chance the exhaust, drive it. See if you get any codes.

Then check mileage. It should tell you.

I would have it street tuned. It will make sure everything in OK. I call it a $500 insurance policy that will tell you HP. It will also let you lower the temp the fans come on (if you didnt lower it already).


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