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Old 07-14-2013, 08:41 PM
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i need help with a fueling or tuning problem. 1970 cutlass with ls3/4l60 combo. all electronics came from psi except ecm. ecm has stock tune setup with nonessential stuff removed.
the car idles fine and drives fine cruising. when i floor it and rpm go up, it dies like its out of fuel. let off the gas and it starts back pulling.
i have swapped tanks to the fuel injected tank for the 70 cutlass and i am running a return style regulator set to 58lbs as recommended from psi instructions. i have -6an line from tank to regulator and -6an from regulator to rail. anybody else had a problem like this.
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Most likely your fuel setup is all and good.. but what you need to do is monitor the fuel pressure at the Fuel Rail..

Also.. connect a scanner and monitor it real time or log the inputs from the sensors.

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i thought about putting a gauge adapter fitting between the rail and regulator. i also ordered a new ecm from psi to make sure that the tune was correct.
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tape a fuel gauge to your hood and watch the fuel pressure when you floor it. You fuel system may not be up to the task. Data-log would also go a long way.
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What fuel pump are you using?
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What brand EFI tank did you switch to? Hopefully NOT Spectra.
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
What brand EFI tank did you switch to? Hopefully NOT Spectra.
When he said he had a tank made for the car this was my first thought too.... Classic Spectra symptoms.
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Sounds like you are running out of fuel under load. Carbbed engines show the same symptoms. Backing out of the throttle and things get normal, not enough fuel volume.
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its a spectra but i changed the pump to a 255lph. i am thinking of getting the e85 high flow/pressure pump for 09 and newer chev trucks off ebay. can someone recommend a better one. will the 05 gto pump work better?
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I think the Spectra tank is a baffeling problem, not a fuel pump problem. You'll need to put a gauge on it to see if you're actually loosing pressure when it cuts out. If it is, you don't have a good baffle in the tank and the fuel is running away from the pump.
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Well, the fuel pump is garbage as well. Mine died after a few hundred miles, as luck would have it it crapped out just after I paid for a flatbed to take my car to the tuner. Pretty awesome. Anyway, just in case anyone else sees this thread - pull that junk fuel pump out and drop a walbro or better in.
More on topic, you might consider getting a fuel pressure gauge for in the cabin anyway, with a fuel injected car it's nice info to have when troubleshooting.
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i checked the fuel pressure while driving. fuel pressure remain at 58lbs and did the same thing. fuel pressure never dropped or fluttered. could it possibly be the ecm. i did not do the programming.
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At what RPM does it feel like it runs out of fuel? Did your tuner remove the over rev feature in the PCM, I am pretty sure this will cut off fuel at the rev limit.
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is the over rev feature the same as fuel cutoff. if so fuel cutoff is set at 6100 from what i read while looking at the tune with my hptuner. i havent verified it because the ecm is not showing me rpm with the dakota digital dash. i havent drove it with the tuner hooked up yet.
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Put a tach on it and check it out. In my experience these engines rev up so fast that it is easy the hit the cutoff and not even realize it.



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