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Old 09-21-2014, 06:05 PM
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Was that the left overs from that sink hole they had?
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Yes, this was the 1.5 millionth car in 2009. I think it was a grand sport. 8 car swallowed up. two of them were so deep they didnt see them til they dug 35 feet of dirt out and hit the car.
They used a high power dirt sucking vacume to remove dirt. And they had two cranes in this small room, the "teepee" I call it. One for the men working in the hole and the other to lift the cars out.
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I love this thread so much, I have to do this again:



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Sweet build, and I like your style... I've got a LS3/6L80/Magnacharger setup in my 68 C10. It's pretty sweet to roll up to a new Mustang/Camaro and blow their doors off with a 46 year old truck with a camper top on it, LOL.

The 67-72chevytruck.com site has a lot of these builds. Here's the LS conversion section:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/f...play.php?f=206
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=450536

And a link to my 68 build:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692
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Cool build! I love these "beater" trucks - I know that's what you call it, but I think they just look so authentic/fantastic. The LS power is really the icing on the cake.
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Awesome truck! Love the look of it!
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Hart rod, I am a member on that forum. I have not been on there in a long time. I need to go visit the site.
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We'', I got the windows back in the truck. Man that was a job! They look great. Except the one thats still back wards lol. I am going to fix it after this weekends struttin.
For you folks who are not blessed to live around this good ol corn blessed state, this weekend is the annual James Dean festival in Fairmont, IN. It is super cool and a massive car show with as many as 1000 cars on show. The whole town shuts down for this big deal.
And right up the road 30 miles is a little town called "Gas City" no kidding. And on the same weekend every year is a rat rod run called "Duck Tail". It is a super cool 50's swap meet and car show and camping party. Tons of vendors selling resto parts to used 30's-60's car parts. This is my kinda area here.

I will get some pics of the truck in a better setting this weekend.
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After some consideration of what the turbo setup will coast plus upgrading the chassis, I am considering toning it done and doing a mild cam and ported stock heads. Maybe keep it around 450hp. Not everybody needs 750hp lol. But it sure sounds good..

I drove this truck tonight and it is a handful with the 250hp treefidy thats in it now at 55+mph.
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Your shows sound really fun.

I have the stock L92 with six gears from a late model Escalade.... 403 horse, 420 ft lbs in a 1951 Ford. It is a handful at over 1/2 throttle in the first two gears. More power sounds great and I haven't even used all that I have in first or second gear due to traction.

Do some suspension work and at 55+ mph you'll be good. I put on adjustable (compression and rebound) viking shocks (with Heidt's IFS) and am amazed at the ride quality and handling.

Look forward to some pictures with the windows in place.
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Sounds pretty cool. I want to upgrade the suspension at some point but I dont think I need 700hp in this old truck. It could be dangerous lol.
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I love the truck. Hammer it with some modern wheels would be b*tchin

I vote stay Fuel injected also, I did a 5.3 swap into my 84 C-10 and it had me pretty pissed a few times where I considered selling it. And went and drove a carbed 5.3 C-10 that was for sale local, and it felt like I was drive an old sbc.... it was terrible.

After that I stuck it out and finished the build and I am SUPER happy with the results. So smooth running, power is great. So far gone 14.0, with hopes of deep 13's since I have a converter now and drag radials. Motor is stock with ls6 cam and proflow intake that's it.
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I'd leave it N/A and just enjoy it.
Mine was almost more fun with the h/c/fast LQ4 last year than it has been this year with all of the headaches.
Rolling burnouts at 70 are cool but trying to control it with old truck suspension is NOT.
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LOL, I think that might be a little cheaper and less headache way to go.
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I'm in the same boat as you on which direction for my truck. A turbo seems really, really cool and with an LQ4 it's just begging for one. Plus the cost of c10/LS long tubes would just about buy the turbo. However I keep thinking "do I really need all that power". The thought of it in a truck kind of scares me but I know it would be fun.

I think I'm going to throw a cam and stall in it and go from there.
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Originally Posted by slowcpe
I keep thinking "do I really need all that power" .
Hell Yeah !!!!! As much as you can afford, lol
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Cool project! I am eying a 58' Apache as I have had the itch to build a fun truck for a few years now. After my wedding this coming weekend, I plan to start getting serious about picking up that project. Definitely going to go LS with fuel injection. May start out NA and eventually be turbo'd since I do kind of have a thing for turbo's. And will have to see if I can even afford any suspension upgrades. I know Jeff at Schwartz Performance but doubt I have a hope of affording one of their frames anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by slowcpe
I'm in the same boat as you on which direction for my truck. A turbo seems really, really cool and with an LQ4 it's just begging for one. Plus the cost of c10/LS long tubes would just about buy the turbo. However I keep thinking "do I really need all that power". The thought of it in a truck kind of scares me but I know it would be fun.

I think I'm going to throw a cam and stall in it and go from there.
Thats the way I am going for now. I can turbo it late. Or hell I could turbo my 57 belair later on lol.
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Originally Posted by Hugger Z
Cool project! I am eying a 58' Apache as I have had the itch to build a fun truck for a few years now. After my wedding this coming weekend, I plan to start getting serious about picking up that project. Definitely going to go LS with fuel injection. May start out NA and eventually be turbo'd since I do kind of have a thing for turbo's. And will have to see if I can even afford any suspension upgrades. I know Jeff at Schwartz Performance but doubt I have a hope of affording one of their frames anytime soon.
I would really love to have a built frame and chassis from them. I cant see spending that much on this truck but it would be killer.
And a head and cam 6.0 will still make 450+hp at the wheels. It is going to do the same thing a 700hp turbo motor will do. besides 70mph burnouts lol. But thats a good way to crash an old truck lol.
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A very small update, I drove it up to Gas City, IN a few weeks ago for the annual "duck Tail Run". I got about 30 mi up the highway when I had a front left tire peel a belt off at 70mph. It was a wild ride....
Rocks and debris flew in the window hitting me in the face and I thought the tire blew at first. It stayed up and was rolling on the cords lol.
It damaged the fender a little and knocked the head lights on of that side from the belt hitting the back side of the buckets....
I had to park it and come back later with a tow dolly. It was crazy. The truck never made it up there. But I did.
There was over 5K entry's in the car show by Sat morning at 10AM. It was bad ***. We walked for 6 hours and did not see it all. But what we did see was awesome.
I'll post a few pics shortly. Flame thrower cars are big at that event.lol.

So I got two used front tires put on the old truck the next day. I only need them to get me by for the rest of this season, which is about another month maybe. I got my eyes on a cool set of vintage ralleys at Summit. They look cool painted up and old center caps on them.


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