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Old 12-24-2016, 09:03 AM
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Default 1987 944 Turbo --> LS2

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I've run a 1987 944 Turbo as a street legal track car for the last 9 years. It's been good to me and I've got it setup to be a perfect dance partner. I've kept up on engine maintenance over the years, rod bearings, head gasket, fresh head and turbo etc. A driver side balance shaft leak and a few others have been getting steadily worse, so I really need to pull the engine and address it. That prompted action on an LS swap that I had been considering for a few years. But first a little bit on the car, and the pieces that will remain after the swap.

Front Suspension:

400in/lbs springs
Racers Edge Camber Plates / High Strung 44 Control Arms with monoball bushings
Ground Control coil over / Koni Sport
30mm front sway bar

Rear Suspension:

650in/lbs springs
Elephant Racing Poly Bronze Bearings / Solid torsion carrier mounts and monoball bushings
Ground Control coil over / 30 series Koni
19mm adjustable rear sway bar

Weights:

Corner balance:

818.....810
782.....747

Cross weight 50.4%

Total weight 3157 including half tank of gas and 215 for driver (2942 without driver)

Update Summer 2019: The car was scaled again after swap at 2935 without driver

Brakes:

Front:

996 GT3 4-Piston calipers on 330 Cayenne rotors
Pagid Orange pads
944 Turbo Cup cooling ducts and 968 air spats

Rear:

Stock 944 Turbo calipers and rotors
Pagid Black pads

Safety/Interior:

Heigo bolt-in rollbar
Cobra Evolution GT halo seat
Scroth harnesses
Momo Mod 07 wheel on NRG quick release

Transmission:

Stock 944 Turbo with added Quaife TBD

Steering:

Factory manual steering rack

Wheels:

ENKEI NT03-M ET60 - 10" front 10" rear (no spacers)

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I found an engine locally that had been used in a hobby vehicle and then removed. It was a 2008 build by Turn Key Engine Supply, a 5.3 litre aluminum block with an LS1 intake and their standalone harness (5-wire hookup) and MEFI-5a ECM. So me and my 6.0 LQ powered 2500HD went to get it. I gave the engine a good cleaning and wipe down, pulled the pan and valve covers to take a quick look, all seemed OK. The headers have been sold and the LS3 style (I think) water pump will also be sold. I pulled the crank pulley to replace the seal, I'll do the rear main seal as well and likely use a fresh oil pan gasket.

Update Feb 2018: Turns out the used engine was a dud, knocking with low oil pressure on first startup once swapped into the 944. A fresh built LS2 long block was sourced, the harness and MEFI ECU were carried over so the original purchase wasn't a total loss.




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I placed an order with Kent at Texas Performance Concepts for most of the major pieces to make my life easier when it comes to the swap, an example of some of the puzzle pieces...

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Old 12-24-2016, 09:22 AM
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Engine is pretty much ready to be pulled. Bellhousing, clutch and flywheel are off the back, torque tube pulled back as far as it will go. Engine wiring harness pulled, came out clean with no wires cut.

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Installed a fresh front crank seal in preparation for installing the new balancer on the LS...

Old seal pulled and area cleaned
1987 944 Turbo --> LS-aeyglf6.jpg

Test fitting the "special tool" used for install
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Fresh seal installed
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Coolant temp sensor arrived that fits the existing threaded hole on an LS head and works with the stock 944 gauge.

1987 944 Turbo --> LS-rxlexoz.jpg
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Home made special tool to install a new F-Body pulley to replace the Corvette style pulley that came with the engine.

1987 944 Turbo --> LS-vmfqxel.jpg

Torque angle guage for the final tightening on the new bolt.

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This little puzzle piece also arrived, M16 Male Metric Straight Thread x M18 Female Metric Straight Thread Adapter. This will let me run the stock 944 oil pressure guage off the opening behind the LS intake on the top rear part of the block.

https://www.mrostop.com/m16m18f87ohg87ms.html

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Installed the swap oil pan and pickup last night.

Shot of the inside of the swap pan, each corner of the sump has a trap door:

1987 944 Turbo --> LS-4xzhbif.jpg

This is the pan the engine came with:

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Ready for install:

1987 944 Turbo --> LS-i516x0o.jpg

Pickup tube installed:

1987 944 Turbo --> LS-w1htfhb.jpg

Swap pan and gasket installed (dry except for RTV on the seams of the block where the covers meet the corners):

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Cool build, i had a couple 944's back in the day the flaired look is always in style!
Wasnt that crank bolt fun??!?!?
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Originally Posted by Outlaw 911
Cool build, i had a couple 944's back in the day the flaired look is always in style!
Wasnt that crank bolt fun??!?!?
Thanks!

Yes, crank bolt install was interesting. That took the big breaker bar for final tightening!
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Pulled the stock engine this afternoon.




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Put the LS on some storage legs so I can work on the back of the engine. Pulled the old rear main seal and installed a new one, used a couple "special tools" for the job. Next job will be installing the adapter and pilot bearing that fit in the back of the crank.



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Are you going to adapt to the tube with a corvette bell housing ? I remember seeing someone made the adapter to go from it to the 944 tube.
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Originally Posted by Outlaw 911
Are you going to adapt to the tube with a corvette bell housing ? I remember seeing someone made the adapter to go from it to the 944 tube.
Yes that's exactly the method. C5 Corvette bell housing and a special adapter that mates it to the torque tube and mounts an internal clutch slave and throw out bearing.

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I have a C5 bell housing if you dont have one yet-$100 plus the freight. I have done about 10 of these swaps on 944 and 968 makes for a great combination.
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Originally Posted by 968ls1
I have a C5 bell housing if you dont have one yet-$100 plus the freight. I have done about 10 of these swaps on 944 and 968 makes for a great combination.
Thanks for the generous offer, that's a good price, I've already got one though. Glad to have you checking in on my thread, it's nice to have someone with experience looking things over.
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Installed the pilot bearing adapter and pilot bearing this evening. Used a little Loctite 609 to hold things in place.


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Looking Good man!
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Originally Posted by hayabusa
Looking Good man!
Thanks, appreciate it!


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