help with coil park. want to use dist.
11-04-2007, 06:39 AM
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are you using a carb? if so buy the msd ignition box hook up the 3 wires (12v, ground, tach) plug the box in to the coils, cam and crank, and map sensor if you so choose, and you should be up and running.
FI is a totally different story and costly in my opinion.
FI is a totally different story and costly in my opinion.
11-04-2007, 07:03 AM
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Taking EFI off the motor is absolutley pointless and lazy in my opinion. Why not just use a standard chevy small block if you're going to do that?
Keep the EFI that was designed for the motor and get a harness made up for your car. It will look like a "factory" install if done right. Not very expensive and it will make the car more driveable and worth more in the end.
Keep the EFI that was designed for the motor and get a harness made up for your car. It will look like a "factory" install if done right. Not very expensive and it will make the car more driveable and worth more in the end.
11-04-2007, 11:43 AM
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+1 I agree with QS Pres. If you get a drop out motor and trans including the harness and computer it will cost you about the same as a carb conversion to have the harness and computer reworked. You will end up with a sweet running ride whan you are done. I have about 5k miles and 18 months of running on mine now and just love it. Absolutley trouble free, fast and gets good gas mileage too.
Take advantage of the modern tech, don't go back 30-40 years.
Pat
Take advantage of the modern tech, don't go back 30-40 years.
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11-04-2007, 11:51 AM
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Taking EFI off the motor is absolutley pointless and lazy in my opinion. Why not just use a standard chevy small block if you're going to do that?
Keep the EFI that was designed for the motor and get a harness made up for your car. It will look like a "factory" install if done right. Not very expensive and it will make the car more driveable and worth more in the end.
Keep the EFI that was designed for the motor and get a harness made up for your car. It will look like a "factory" install if done right. Not very expensive and it will make the car more driveable and worth more in the end.
Hows this for lazy..... And I drve it to work!!!!
Big Bird ws6 build the car how ever you want to.
11-04-2007, 03:19 PM
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that was an awesome video. what cam are you running? anyway, i think the question was pretty vague to begin with. Big Bird WS6 asked how to make some coil packs work so i answered.
and FI was to costly for me. i wasnt so lucky as to get a complete drop out. all i got a hold of was a stripped long block with no front accessories. a stand alone FI harness cost more than the victor manifold and MSD ignition combined. i already have a mighty demon carb so that wasnt an additional cost.
im also using a t56 so im pretty sure gas guzzling issues wont be that bad.
OUT WITH THE OLD!
HELLO LS1
I GUESS ILL HAVE TO CALL AND LOWER THE INSURANCE VALUE ON MY 69 CAMARO
that was an awesome video. what cam are you running? anyway, i think the question was pretty vague to begin with. Big Bird WS6 asked how to make some coil packs work so i answered.
and FI was to costly for me. i wasnt so lucky as to get a complete drop out. all i got a hold of was a stripped long block with no front accessories. a stand alone FI harness cost more than the victor manifold and MSD ignition combined. i already have a mighty demon carb so that wasnt an additional cost.
im also using a t56 so im pretty sure gas guzzling issues wont be that bad.
OUT WITH THE OLD!
HELLO LS1
I GUESS ILL HAVE TO CALL AND LOWER THE INSURANCE VALUE ON MY 69 CAMARO
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11-04-2007, 03:35 PM
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DCx thanks. Its a g5x2 cam from LGMOTORSPORTS. I understand where your coming from b/c Im using a truck motor so the intake sucks at making power on the big end compare the price of a edelbrock vic. jr. to a fast intake. i get 16 mpg around town driving with a 700r4 so the t56 should get at least 20. I think a car that gets better than 15 mpg and runs in the 10's is pretty good.
Your car kicks *** DCx did you make that valley cover with the breather?
Your car kicks *** DCx did you make that valley cover with the breather?
11-04-2007, 03:42 PM
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i agree. my bone stock 01 cobra only gets 17.5 mpg with the way i drive. 7000rpm redline and 3.23 gears...
my ls1 has a MS3 cam and TSP ported LS6 heads.
i had to buy a conversion oil pan, motor mounts, cross member and hydraulics for the t56, and all sorts of other engine swap parts. i had to cut a cost some where or i would never be able to enjoy it.
also, are you running a preset timing curve or did you plot your own?
my ls1 has a MS3 cam and TSP ported LS6 heads.
i had to buy a conversion oil pan, motor mounts, cross member and hydraulics for the t56, and all sorts of other engine swap parts. i had to cut a cost some where or i would never be able to enjoy it.
also, are you running a preset timing curve or did you plot your own?
11-04-2007, 06:52 PM
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ok this car is getting an lsx block brand new. didn't come out of anything. second yes going carb. i what the biggest cube small block. i think that is like 505 or 510( is this true?)
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it looks like your post says you want to use a distributor. I don't think there is a provision (gear drive) to use one. The motor was not designed for it.
11-04-2007, 10:49 PM
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Here is a link to one dist. manufacturer article.
Bulky belt drive setup
I know I have seen some others around here.
I thought I saw one where the dist. was facing forward.
Looks kinda expensive, probably better off running the msd controller.
edit: found it...
Non-bulky gear drive setup
DCx, sweet camaro.
Bulky belt drive setup
I know I have seen some others around here.
I thought I saw one where the dist. was facing forward.
Looks kinda expensive, probably better off running the msd controller.
edit: found it...
Non-bulky gear drive setup
DCx, sweet camaro.
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11-05-2007, 01:55 AM
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just go with the msd box!
the valley cover i have on my engine is from wegner motorsports. they are the company that made the front dist. drive for gm and also a bunch of other LSx and cup car engine parts.
http://www.wegnerautomotive2.com/
wegner makes valve covers, water pumps, front drive dist, accessory drives, valley covers, and a stand alone ignition to run the coil packs. but it is costly. the online store isnt loading at the moment, but check them out.
the MSD box allows you to plot your own timing curve via a lap top. the software has a digital dashboard that will show you engine rpm and timing. pretty sweet for $312 plus its just a few wires to hook it up.
and lastly!
the front dist. drive is around $450, its requires you to drill and pin your crank. you also have to buy a crank extension, and run an ATI balancer. trust me, major pain in the ***. the front dist drive will set you back well past $1200 and then some. just get some coil packs from a user on here for around $100, buy the MSD, victor jr intake, and dont look back.
the valley cover i have on my engine is from wegner motorsports. they are the company that made the front dist. drive for gm and also a bunch of other LSx and cup car engine parts.
http://www.wegnerautomotive2.com/
wegner makes valve covers, water pumps, front drive dist, accessory drives, valley covers, and a stand alone ignition to run the coil packs. but it is costly. the online store isnt loading at the moment, but check them out.
the MSD box allows you to plot your own timing curve via a lap top. the software has a digital dashboard that will show you engine rpm and timing. pretty sweet for $312 plus its just a few wires to hook it up.
and lastly!
the front dist. drive is around $450, its requires you to drill and pin your crank. you also have to buy a crank extension, and run an ATI balancer. trust me, major pain in the ***. the front dist drive will set you back well past $1200 and then some. just get some coil packs from a user on here for around $100, buy the MSD, victor jr intake, and dont look back.