convertible sub frame connectors
10-15-2012, 02:01 PM
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convertible sub frame connectors I have a 99 convertible WS6, I was ordering a couple parts from a suspension vendor I found here on ls1tech, While I was on the phone with him I asked if they produced subframe connectors for my convertible, he began to tell me I did NOT need them since it was a convertible the frame was already tied together and I would NOT get hardly any gain from using subframe connectors. Does anybody else agree with this? Anybody else put subframe connectors on their convertible? I know they make them, but are they necessary?
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10-15-2012, 09:30 PM
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Ok, I was thinking the same thing. I just wanted to hear from some other convertible owners that may have had some installed, would you guys recommend the bolt in or the weld in type? I just completed a few mods, (yank ss3600, headers and catback) and after I install my new panhard bars I was contemplating my next move. Thanks for the info...
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10-15-2012, 11:45 PM
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Both my stepsister and my brother have 3 points while I have 2 points and to be honest I cant tell a difference. Either way a set of SFC make these cars so much better.
12-04-2012, 08:48 AM
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I agree they are very important on a convertible. With the lack of roof support the convertible needs as much support as it can get.
It sounds like the suspension vendor didn't have what you wanted and didn't want you to look elsewhere.
I hope that helps!
Ryan
It sounds like the suspension vendor didn't have what you wanted and didn't want you to look elsewhere.
I hope that helps!
Ryan
12-07-2012, 10:11 AM
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Hello,
In most cases the 3-Point SFC's are overkill. They do add additional support and bracing and would be recommended for higher powered cars and heavy racing. There would be no downfall to running the 3-Point set up other then they add a little more weight.
The other main benefit the 3-Point SFC's have is they reduce stress that tunnel mount torque arms apply to the floor of the car. The SFC's bolt under the torque arms forcing the stress of the torque arm into the SFC and not the floor. Check out the picture below as a perfect example.
Our 3-Point SFC's tuck up very tight against the chassis and do not reduce ground clearance. They are also available in a 100% bolt on set up or a weld in set up. Here is what we have to offer: http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...Path=7_113_264
If you have any additional questions I am glad to help. Thanks!
In most cases the 3-Point SFC's are overkill. They do add additional support and bracing and would be recommended for higher powered cars and heavy racing. There would be no downfall to running the 3-Point set up other then they add a little more weight.
The other main benefit the 3-Point SFC's have is they reduce stress that tunnel mount torque arms apply to the floor of the car. The SFC's bolt under the torque arms forcing the stress of the torque arm into the SFC and not the floor. Check out the picture below as a perfect example.
Our 3-Point SFC's tuck up very tight against the chassis and do not reduce ground clearance. They are also available in a 100% bolt on set up or a weld in set up. Here is what we have to offer: http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...Path=7_113_264
If you have any additional questions I am glad to help. Thanks!
12-10-2012, 05:55 PM
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Thanks for the help!
Could you give me your thoughts on weld-on vs. bolt-in?
Could you give me your thoughts on weld-on vs. bolt-in?
Hello,
In most cases the 3-Point SFC's are overkill. They do add additional support and bracing and would be recommended for higher powered cars and heavy racing. There would be no downfall to running the 3-Point set up other then they add a little more weight.
The other main benefit the 3-Point SFC's have is they reduce stress that tunnel mount torque arms apply to the floor of the car. The SFC's bolt under the torque arms forcing the stress of the torque arm into the SFC and not the floor. Check out the picture below as a perfect example.
Our 3-Point SFC's tuck up very tight against the chassis and do not reduce ground clearance. They are also available in a 100% bolt on set up or a weld in set up. Here is what we have to offer: http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...Path=7_113_264
If you have any additional questions I am glad to help. Thanks!
In most cases the 3-Point SFC's are overkill. They do add additional support and bracing and would be recommended for higher powered cars and heavy racing. There would be no downfall to running the 3-Point set up other then they add a little more weight.
The other main benefit the 3-Point SFC's have is they reduce stress that tunnel mount torque arms apply to the floor of the car. The SFC's bolt under the torque arms forcing the stress of the torque arm into the SFC and not the floor. Check out the picture below as a perfect example.
Our 3-Point SFC's tuck up very tight against the chassis and do not reduce ground clearance. They are also available in a 100% bolt on set up or a weld in set up. Here is what we have to offer: http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...Path=7_113_264
If you have any additional questions I am glad to help. Thanks!
12-11-2012, 08:49 AM
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Our weld in and bolt in SFC's are all the same, the bolt on's just come with bolt on hardware. So a bolt on set up can be welded at any time.
I hope that helps,
Ryan
12-11-2012, 11:10 AM
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here's 2 point SFCs installed on a convertible. More weld surface, more contact points, and doing the job they are intended to and sold as... connecting the subframes. Weld-in is the only way to go also. Any bolted-in suspension or chassis component will flex at the mounting points well before it does it's job.
Note how the MWC SFC's are a TRUE SUBFRAME CONNECTOR. Look at all these pics and notice the way the chassis is designed and you all will notice the outside of the LCA bracket is NOT part of the subframe, and the front floor crossbrace is NOT part of the front subframe.
3 point is arguable whether it is worth it or not(the floor bracket will flex before it stops chassis flex), but I can guarantee you that a connector bolted to the outside of the LCA box is not doing a bit of good for the car. Not only that... the rocker panel is the strongest point of a uni-body car so why add more material right next to it. MWC TRUE Subframe Connectors FTW!
Note how the MWC SFC's are a TRUE SUBFRAME CONNECTOR. Look at all these pics and notice the way the chassis is designed and you all will notice the outside of the LCA bracket is NOT part of the subframe, and the front floor crossbrace is NOT part of the front subframe.
3 point is arguable whether it is worth it or not(the floor bracket will flex before it stops chassis flex), but I can guarantee you that a connector bolted to the outside of the LCA box is not doing a bit of good for the car. Not only that... the rocker panel is the strongest point of a uni-body car so why add more material right next to it. MWC TRUE Subframe Connectors FTW!
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