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Old 05-10-2009, 08:42 PM   #1
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just got an 04 zo6 car has bolt ons currently. goal power is around 550-600 on the ls6. had a procharger on an fbody before and the maintenance and reliability of the system was not ideal.. thought i might give it another shot but have been really thinking of a nice h/c setup with a 125 shot... the nitrous setup seems to be less of a headache but what are your guys experiences?? car will be more of a roll on car with a little track time here and there
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Bottle all the way.
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Maintenance on a Procharger setup? Yours wasn't set up right, dude. Mine is great. I'd go boost any day. Every time I romp into mine it's like a 150 shot.
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My buddy has a heads/cam procharger car. When we race my heads/cam N20 125 shot car.......I put 6 cars on him.
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Sounds like your buddy needs a driver mod. Or you could just have a stronger setup. I know my canned procharged c5 is way more fun than my 408 sprayed fbody, despite being a little slower.

Does your buddy have aftermarket heads or just stock truck heads? I don't see why he can't run the same time as you are since on an accurate dyno you can't be making more than 550rwhp. He should be close to 600. It's really a driver's race.

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Boost. You don't need to refill a bottle.
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I'd spray it. You have to fill the bottle, but how hard is that? I think a H/C Z06 would make a great DD.
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Sounds like your buddy needs a driver mod. Or you could just have a stronger setup. I know my canned procharged c5 is way more fun than my 408 sprayed fbody, despite being a little slower.

Does your buddy have aftermarket heads or just stock truck heads? I don't see why he can't run the same time as you are since on an accurate dyno you can't be making more than 550rwhp. He should be close to 600. It's really a driver's race.
Well, I have driven both cars down the track the same day. His 12.1 @ 116 mine 10.97 @ 127 the same day. He makes 588 RWHP 507 RWTQ in the winter and I make 580 RWHP and 670 RWTQ. I can drive pretty good so I would say the bottle wins, by a huge margin. Don't even look at the E.T. the MPH alone should tell you something.
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Maintenance on a Procharger setup? Yours wasn't set up right, dude. Mine is great. I'd go boost any day. Every time I romp into mine it's like a 150 shot.
ive decided on bottle... the car was setup right...i was referring to the cooling system headaches and checking/changing oil in the blower wasnt fun....forgot to mention that it gets around 115 degrees here in the summer so fighting with the cooling system with a blower is no joy cause i HAVE to have a/c. i can drive the nitrous setup on our shitty 91 octane while on the motor and put hundred in for the bottle.... the blower id consistantly have a mix because id be paranoid with the heat of getting knock/detenation....
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Well, I have driven both cars down the track the same day. His 12.1 @ 116 mine 10.97 @ 127 the same day. He makes 588 RWHP 507 RWTQ in the winter and I make 580 RWHP and 670 RWTQ. I can drive pretty good so I would say the bottle wins, by a huge margin. Don't even look at the E.T. the MPH alone should tell you something.
and i can say ive seen this vette run and its been able to pull some boosted cars that make a decent amount more than him....
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do both! LOL
Cheap way to go Nitrous, expensive way to go Boost. Depends how much $$$$$ you have to blow.
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and i can say ive seen this vette run and its been able to pull some boosted cars that make a decent amount more than him....
Put a 100 shot on and have some fun.
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do both! LOL
Cheap way to go Nitrous, expensive way to go Boost. Depends how much $$$$$ you have to blow.
Depends on how often you hit the button and how far you have to drive to fill the bottle.
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Well, I have driven both cars down the track the same day. His 12.1 @ 116 mine 10.97 @ 127 the same day. He makes 588 RWHP 507 RWTQ in the winter and I make 580 RWHP and 670 RWTQ. I can drive pretty good so I would say the bottle wins, by a huge margin. Don't even look at the E.T. the MPH alone should tell you something.
Don't get me wrong, I like both and don't care what you run. Heck, I just think for a fun car, a blower is great cause I can blast it 100X a day and not have to refill. But if anything happened to my Procharger and I was short on cash, I'll gladly pull it off and put my bottle on. I don't care that much, and don't think "Nitrous is for cheap power". I think it's great. But let's be realistic: look at the fastest LSx cars out there. They run boost. Not bottle.

Man, that MPH and ET both tell me his car is running worse than a bone stock car. That's all I see there. Your buddy needs to put the last 2 spark plug wires on. LOL!
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Another vote for boost. Never been a fan of the bottle. I've heard too many horror stories about nitrous. Boost is more relialble these days, and the modern systems don't need to have the oil changed independently of the engine oil; they tap the oil pan.
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Man, that MPH and ET both tell me his car is running worse than a bone stock car. That's all I see there. Your buddy needs to put the last 2 spark plug wires on. LOL!
I agree with this. That 116 trap speed is HORRIBLE for 588/507. I trapped 125 with 500/521. Something is way wrong with your buddies car.
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Another vote for boost. Never been a fan of the bottle. I've heard too many horror stories about nitrous. Boost is more relialble these days, and the modern systems don't need to have the oil changed independently of the engine oil; they tap the oil pan.
Actually the modern systems are self-contained. That way you don't have one oil contaminating the other. Tapping the oil pan is the old school, undesirable way.
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Another vote for boost. Never been a fan of the bottle. I've heard too many horror stories about nitrous. Boost is more relialble these days, and the modern systems don't need to have the oil changed independently of the engine oil; they tap the oil pan.

A lot of horror stories come from people who are not running the right fuel or don't go to a reputable tuner....plenty of people blow their motorswith blowers do a search, a vette is easier to change the blower oil on but the fbodies aren't a picnic and with bottle I don't have to worry about the blower or turbo going bad
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Actually the modern systems are self-contained. That way you don't have one oil contaminating the other. Tapping the oil pan is the old school, undesirable way.
I thought old school was having to change the oil in the blower, which is what the OP was complaining about.

Nevermind. I see what you're saying.

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http://www.aacorvette.com/pdf/aa_c6_instructions.pdf

Both methods are still around (i.e. self contained or tapping engine oil).

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I agree with this. That 116 trap speed is HORRIBLE for 588/507. I trapped 125 with 500/521. Something is way wrong with your buddies car.
Well, these were winter dyno numbers. Our Vegas heat brings his down to around 530 RWHP. Either way, I like boost and bottle applications, but for Vegas, bottle is the way to go. It is hot most of the year and doesn't effect the bottle as much as superchargers and turbos.
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