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Old 10-09-2009, 03:07 AM
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I resently sold my fbody idk why... stupid...

Well, after just a month or 2, i am aching to get into a car with some power. I currently drive an 06 taurus. Only positive thing i could say is... its paid off.... Now really thinking of picking up a vette in the near future... I love styling of T/A but need something newer...

I thought about getting a performance import but the thought of that just made me feel like such a fuckn ***** traitor (reminds me of that thread where a kid sold his SS for a scion tc )... I would rather stick with an american performance car... There is just nothing out there imo (besides an fbody) that has the biggest bang for the buck looks/performance wise....

Car will be daily driver for the most part and very lightly modded (intake, catback at most). i will be financing probably an ls2 vette with a price tag around 30 grand OTD...
Since i am coming from a world of fbody, i wanted to know some specs to start me out with...
Performance: What does it run 1/4 mile? LS2 bone stock, 6 speed? 0-60? Quicker than 370z? Bolton Fbody? Best i could get out of my 02 full Bolton t/a was around 4.9-8 secs 0-60... never ran on a track...

Fuel economy? (it will be a dd for the most part, and no im not expecting it to be a civic lol) Curb weight (coupe m6)??

Also, dont flame me for this guys, but for the ones who actually drove/owned one, how does that paddle shift feature feel? I have never driven anything like that, just mostly manuals.... Does it compare to a manual??


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Originally Posted by black_phoenix
I thought about getting a performance import but the thought of that just made me feel like such a fuckn ***** traitor (reminds me of that thread where a kid sold his SS for a scion tc )... I would rather stick with an american performance car...
Me too.




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Performance: What does it run 1/4 mile? LS2 bone stock, 6 speed? 0-60? Quicker than 370z? Bolton Fbody?
My C6 LS2 automatic (6 speed auto) ran a best of 12.21@115.45 in bone stock trim (and is still the quickest bone stock LS2 as far as I know ) but that is not the norm or course. Depending on weather conditions/DA, driver weight and fuel load it is a solid mid 12 second car all day long.
Yes it is quicker than a 370Z but it is not quicker than a properly set up/properly driven bolt ons only LS1 F-body.




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Fuel economy?
Depending on driving style and speed, up to 31mpg+ highway, shocking I know.




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Also, dont flame me for this guys, but for the ones who actually drove/owned one, how does that paddle shift feature feel? I have never driven anything like that, just mostly manuals.... Does it compare to a manual??
No. It's far better than almost any other conventional automatic transmission as the paddles are fun but it is NOT comparable to a true manual.
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Yea, I saw that vid from car and driver... just unbelievable. You got some sick *** ls2....
I will definitely test drive an auto, try those paddle shifts
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Yea, I saw that vid from car and driver... just unbelievable. You got some sick *** ls2....
I will definitely test drive an auto, try those paddle shifts
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anyone else????,?????
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I don't mean to hijack but I'm interested in this kind of question too as I'm looking at either a LS6 C5 or LS2 C6. Both make about the same power stock. Performance should be about the same stock, and these motors are so easy to build power with getting 450+ to the wheels without any power adders isn't out of the question. If you wanted to supercharge it 500 isn't an unnattainable number either. I'm just wondering what are the glaring differences between the C5 and C6 performance wise? I thought about getting an LS7 C6 but then I realized I could save some money by getting an older LS6 C5 and with a few boltons I'm making stock LS7 type power.
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id get a z06 over a ls2 c6 base.
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I'd love to but a C6 Z06 is still out of my price range lol
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12.2 is hard to believe with an LS2 C6... Not saying it didn't happen, but I'm imagining a tail wind or divine intervention. LOL

An LS2 C6 should run high 12s to low 13s. They're basically LS6's with more displacement. They weigh significantly more than a C5Z, so they're not going to run the rated 12.7 that a C5Z would. I think on tire they should do that though.

Just don't buy an 05 LS2 C6. They're a lot of trouble.
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Really? Actually the weight of an 04 Z06 versus an 05 LS2 C6 is within 100 lbs so I wouldn't call that a significant difference. hmm. With a 200 pound driver and a listed curb weight of 3179 and 404 flywheel horsepower at sealevel the car should run in the neihborhood of 12.50. What is the real difference between the Z and base other than horsepower? They weigh nearly the same. Was looking more toward an 04 Z anyway. Although from what I'm reading on em the LS6 is just a mildly tuned LS1. Please correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I'm seeing. I think I could just go with an 02-03 base LS1 and build it from there and come to the same power potential as the LS6 for essentially the same money meaning that the LS6 ceiling N/A is about 475 RWHP. Just my thinking. Please feel free to call me retarded if I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by SCM_Crash
12.2 is hard to believe with an LS2 C6... Not saying it didn't happen, but I'm imagining a tail wind or divine intervention. LOL

An LS2 C6 should run high 12s to low 13s. They're basically LS6's with more displacement. They weigh significantly more than a C5Z, so they're not going to run the rated 12.7 that a C5Z would. I think on tire they should do that though.

Just don't buy an 05 LS2 C6. They're a lot of trouble.
WRONG when my car was bone stock it ran a best of 12.58 at i think 112 mph.
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Originally Posted by dicky98z
WRONG when my car was bone stock it ran a best of 12.58 at i think 112 mph.
Damn I was close in my post with my estimate then lol
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Originally Posted by black_phoenix
Performance: What does it run 1/4 mile? LS2 bone stock, 6 speed? 0-60? Quicker than 370z? Bolton Fbody? Best i could get out of my 02 full Bolton t/a was around 4.9-8 secs 0-60... never ran on a track...
mine ran a best of 12.58 at about 112 mph in bone stock form, i mean from stock tires to stock air filter. and like LS1LT1 said a properly bolt-on F-body will out run a stock LS2 vette but a good bolt-on vette will just supprise you at how quick you can get it. with my almost full bolt-on LS2 im pulling 11.1-11.2s at about 122 mph and shooting for 10's.

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Fuel economy? (it will be a dd for the most part, and no im not expecting it to be a civic lol) Curb weight (coupe m6)??
my mpg in bone stock form was 29.5 on average for highway trips at about 77mph before they had 10% ethanol everywhere. when they put 10% ethanol in all the gas my mpg fell off to about 27.5 to 28 mpg on highway then when i installed my gears it dropped again to about 25 on the highway.

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Also, dont flame me for this guys, but for the ones who actually drove/owned one, how does that paddle shift feature feel? I have never driven anything like that, just mostly manuals.... Does it compare to a manual??


Thanx
to be honest im not really crazy about the paddle shift, it has to much of a lag. the only time i use it is when im out on the back roads to hold a gear on a curve. to me if you dont really take it to the drag strip or get caught in traffic jams often then you will probably enjoy the manual more.

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When you say bolt-ons what do you mean? Heads? Cam? headers exhaust TB? That's pretty impressive for boltons. That means up here at 6000 you'd still have a mid 11 sec car.
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Originally Posted by rich5368
When you say bolt-ons what do you mean? Heads? Cam? headers exhaust TB? That's pretty impressive for boltons. That means up here at 6000 you'd still have a mid 11 sec car.
here are all my mods Vararam, ported TB, ported FAST 92, LG PRO longtubes with high flow cats going into stock mufflers, 160 t-stat, Yank 3600, 3.42 gears, tune, and race weight is about 3300 with me (car is not gutted at all). i also have coilovers, poly bushings, and poly motor and trans mounts which all didn't really help my 1/4 times because with out all that my best 60' was 1.51 abd best with it is 1.53.

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That's impressive since you haven't dug into your heads or cam at all. A little spray or a cam and you'd be running 10s. Good on you man. Do you have dyno numbers?
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Originally Posted by rich5368
That's impressive since you haven't dug into your heads or cam at all. A little spray or a cam and you'd be running 10s. Good on you man. Do you have dyno numbers?
Thanks
Yea i had it dyno'd when i put the stall in and he thought his dyno was a reading alittle low but i got 371 RWHP and 379 RWTQ. All i done since i dyno'd is put on the ported TB and i still have an electric water pump to put on and maybe this summer ill do a little dry nitrous setup. Im not really planing on a cam or anything that makes the car load since most everyone thinks if it's quiet then it must not be fast so ill stay quiet an supprise them.

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Nice. Now I have someone to base my build off of.
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uncles 07 a6 ls2 c6 ran 13.0@109 had the base gears and stock run flats with intake and catback made 345whp before tune and after 355whp.

but look at dicky98z he has full bolt ons and still didnt make more than my dads ls6 z06 with just intake and tune which weighed 3080lbs.
get the ls6 z06 imo
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There is no way a Z06 weighed in at 3080 with your dad in it unless it was gutted. I'm not here to argue symantics but simple bolt ons aren't going to make a huge difference. Cams heads etc is what makes huge differences in power. Not to mention that density altitude plays a role in power. If you're at sea level and I'm at 6000 with identical cars yours will have more power due to air density. Seeing as how the LS6 and the LS2 are rated at almost exactly the same hp and tq I can see how your dads LS6 would be close to an LS2 with a couple more boltons. Like I said I don't know which I'm going to go with yet but they are almost a dead heat if you look at stock numbers. However the LS2 is more cubes and there is no replacement for displacement. The LS6 is a mildly modded LS1 and nothing more.


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