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Old 03-29-2006, 05:44 PM
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Is It Possible That A Corvette Get Beat By A Camaro SS By Lengths
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Yes.... more information would help
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Originally Posted by CorvetteGuy
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its a toss up on who will win. basically it will come down to who's car is a DOG from the factory considerin u both are A4's.
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Most stock automatic Camaro SS's around here run 13.5s, while a stock automatic C5 runs closer to 13.2 to 13.3. Most of that is due to the fact that the Corvette is roughly 200lbs lighter.
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It's a toss up.
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rear end ratios is probably the biggest factor- Vettes come in 2.73 or 3.15, the Camaro SS only comes in 3.23s (3.23 is an option for Z28s and non-WS6 TAs.) If the Vette has 3.15s it got a slight edge on the SS, if the Vette has 2.73s the SS will probably take a small advantage.

But either one can be killed if it happens to catch a dead spot. I guess it's possible for one car to punch it at 25 and downshift while the other punches at 30 and takes off like a dog.
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If both cars are stock the C5 will win. I don't think anyone will argue with that. My question is, who has a bone stock 97 Vette or 2002 F bod
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Never lost to c5. Although my 01 SS might 've been a freak. From what I've seen the C5 A4 are pretty slow ( must have the 2.73) . Also my buddy with a 00 T/A m6 license plate EATS C5 lost only once to a C5 - by 1/2 a car. Another friend had a 98 C5 2.73 A4 - ran 13.8 stock , with miles and exhaust, and vortex air box,3.42's and tuning I got that car into the 12's (12.98) . With less mods my 01 SS ran 12.96. Either way should be close. Don't run him beyond 110 mph - his aerodynamics will kill ya.
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" Never lost to a C5 " Good job guy. Your the king
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I have an 99 a4 with 3:15 gears,my buddy's T.A. has never beat me,at the track or on the highway..His is a 6 speed with whisper lid,coil overs,panhard rod etc...After i got my longtubes and got rid of the runflat tires,it's not even a close race anymore.We've raced at least 10 times with witnesses everytime.As soon as i wanted to get it on vid,he stopped racing me.
Only f-bodies that beat me at the track have drag radials or heads and cam.
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Originally Posted by NX74LS6
Never lost to c5. Although my 01 SS might 've been a freak. From what I've seen the C5 A4 are pretty slow ( must have the 2.73) . Also my buddy with a 00 T/A m6 license plate EATS C5 lost only once to a C5 - by 1/2 a car. Another friend had a 98 C5 2.73 A4 - ran 13.8 stock , with miles and exhaust, and vortex air box,3.42's and tuning I got that car into the 12's (12.98) . With less mods my 01 SS ran 12.96. Either way should be close. Don't run him beyond 110 mph - his aerodynamics will kill ya.
somethin is seriously wrong with ur friends C5 that ran a 13.8. Are u at really high elevation or somethin?? u have one good point thou, the C5 A4 is slow, just not as slow as an A4 f-body
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It's possible... On avg. the vette will be faster... but I had an '01 T/A & with just a lid and filter I could take my dads '98 C5 (a4) with 2.73's and his was completely stock. I could take him up to about 120... but after that his was faster. Then when he got his '01 vette... it would walk on my T/A.. so it's possible... But 90% of the time stock for stock the C5 will be faster
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Originally Posted by T-maxx
" Never lost to a C5 " Good job guy. Your the king
Not bragging . Just stating the facts. I've never sought out to race C5's . As I stated the ones I've seen at the track were not too quick( unless heavily modified). On the street it seems a lot of the owners aren't intersested in messing around , or don't have anything to gain by beating or ( God forbid losing ) to a lowly F-bod. One track day at LACR the Corvette club showed up - only 1 car ran in the 13's ( he had drag radials 13.9) . Yes that's an altitude track (2700') but it's not uncommon to see f-bods running in the high to mid 13's at the same track. Granted these C5 were mostly A4's and a few vert's ( very slow). My buddy with the 00 T/A m6 no cats , lid , street tires , cutout ran consistent low 13's there ( best 13.20 @ 106) . His only loss to a C5 was when he spun off the line and was edged by an m6 C5 13.5 - 13.6. Another guy in our group had a 01 Z28 lid, cutout , maf and was also running in the low 13's there . When I had got my SS I was at the track every week at LACR and I could count on 1 hand the amount of C5's there, whereas there were atleast 50 or more F-bods. Maybe it's LA but it doesn't seem like C5 owner here like to race their cars that much- most are older with "thinning" hair. Ofcourse most of the C5 that would show were the Z06's -- totally different story !!! Although when I had my LT's and Pulley I beat 2 Z06's - 1 from a roll to about 70 to a stop sign and he turned right. And then on the freeway from 60-90 ( yes beyond 100 he would've taken me I know - most Z06's trap 114 and my car trapped 112 @ sea level. Not trying to stir the pot - I'm actually surprised by much I'm ready here - it's running contrary to what I've( and others here) experienced . If I had a C5 I'd be running it at the track - glad to see there's Vette owners that run thier cars. If I had a dollar for every old lady or old man in a C5 here in LA driving 20 mph below the speed limit .......
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Originally Posted by T-maxx
" Never lost to a C5 " Good job guy. Your the king
Now now, guys, I've known NXLS6 for over 10 years, this guy LIVED at the drag strip and he did have a factory freak SS, he would never lie or you guys. He's right, you don't see a lot of C5's on a regular night at LACR and when you do see them, they're usually A4's with 2.73's. There was one last Friday night running 14.3's - no kidding.
In all honesty - NX knows what he's doing from years of experience racing vs. the green newbies that show up and drive their stock radials through the waterbox as they stage.

From personal experience - and to reply to the original posters question the car with the 3.15 or the 3.23 will win a drag race vs. the one with the 2.73 unless it is from a roll at 70 mph - there the 2.73 car has the advantage because it can drop down to second gear.

My (3.23) 99 Z28 box stock ran a 13.6@104 at the same track where my box stock 98 (2.73) C5 ran a 13.8 @ 103.

NXLS6 actually drove my Z28 one weekend we went to Carlsbad (now closed) and pulled me in the Z28 - this was after I had changed the rear of my C5 to a 3.42 gear. Why? He caught 2nd gear at 60 and my car didn't , it went to 3rd

HOWEVER - last week we also saw a BOX STOCK 2003 Z06 run 12.77 with a crappy @$$ 2.3 60 ft. NXLS6 - have you ever seen a box stock F-body run that?

BTW - NX's a lot faster w/o the flame suit

FYI I've owned a 1998 C5 A4 w/ 2.73's, a 2001 Z06 , a 2005 C6 M6 , shared my wife's 2004 C5 Vert A/4 w/ 3.15 & currently own a 457 rwhp 2003 Z06 done up by A&A - I've also owned a 93 LT1 Z28 and a 99 Z/28 A/4 w - 3.23's.
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Originally Posted by NX74LS6
If I had a dollar for every old lady or old man in a C5 here in LA driving 20 mph below the speed limit .......
NOT NICE NICOLAS!!!!



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Originally Posted by Pio
NOT NICE NICOLAS!!!!



Don't worry Pio . You have all your hair.
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Originally Posted by NX74LS6
Not bragging . Just stating the facts. I've never sought out to race C5's . As I stated the ones I've seen at the track were not too quick( unless heavily modified). On the street it seems a lot of the owners aren't intersested in messing around , or don't have anything to gain by beating or ( God forbid losing ) to a lowly F-bod. One track day at LACR the Corvette club showed up - only 1 car ran in the 13's ( he had drag radials 13.9) . Yes that's an altitude track (2700') but it's not uncommon to see f-bods running in the high to mid 13's at the same track. Granted these C5 were mostly A4's and a few vert's ( very slow). My buddy with the 00 T/A m6 no cats , lid , street tires , cutout ran consistent low 13's there ( best 13.20 @ 106) . His only loss to a C5 was when he spun off the line and was edged by an m6 C5 13.5 - 13.6. Another guy in our group had a 01 Z28 lid, cutout , maf and was also running in the low 13's there . When I had got my SS I was at the track every week at LACR and I could count on 1 hand the amount of C5's there, whereas there were atleast 50 or more F-bods. Maybe it's LA but it doesn't seem like C5 owner here like to race their cars that much- most are older with "thinning" hair. Ofcourse most of the C5 that would show were the Z06's -- totally different story !!! Although when I had my LT's and Pulley I beat 2 Z06's - 1 from a roll to about 70 to a stop sign and he turned right. And then on the freeway from 60-90 ( yes beyond 100 he would've taken me I know - most Z06's trap 114 and my car trapped 112 @ sea level. Not trying to stir the pot - I'm actually surprised by much I'm ready here - it's running contrary to what I've( and others here) experienced . If I had a C5 I'd be running it at the track - glad to see there's Vette owners that run thier cars. If I had a dollar for every old lady or old man in a C5 here in LA driving 20 mph below the speed limit .......
So the fastest C5 went 13.9 with Dr's. After that your " buddy " lost to a C5 that ran 13.5. Are you confused sir? You couldn't stir the pot if you tried!
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F-bodies dyno higher at the wheels because of less drivetrain loss. F-bodies only weigh 200 max pounds more than the 'Vette.

Same engine,tranny,horsepower with less parasitic loss on the f-body and just a lil' more weight than the 'Vette. Is it to hard too believe that the Camaro SS can't stomp the high and mighty $20,000 more expensive Corvette?

When my Firehawk was bone stock it kicked my ex-bosses '01 C5-A4 by almost a car and a half up to 90 mph where he shut down. And I was pulling faster at that point, that's why he stopped racing.
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
F-bodies dyno higher at the wheels because of less drivetrain loss. F-bodies only weigh 200 max pounds more than the 'Vette.

Same engine,tranny,horsepower with less parasitic loss on the f-body and just a lil' more weight than the 'Vette. Is it to hard too believe that the Camaro SS can't stomp the high and mighty $20,000 more expensive Corvette?

When my Firehawk was bone stock it kicked my ex-bosses '01 C5-A4 by almost a car and a half up to 90 mph where he shut down. And I was pulling faster at that point, that's why he stopped racing.
It's the exact opposite here were i'm at.The f-body will rarely win stock for stock over here,same on the highway.At digital corvettes theres a huge street and 1/4 mile vid section,rarely does the f-body win there either.Not trying to stir the pot or anything,just giving facts and video.The c5 has a flatter torque curve and a different tune,tranny is sorta the same,the c5s is in the rear,and a c5 coupe with NON runflats gets a way better bite off the line than with the stock run flats,and that transfers all the way down the track.
I wouldn't call the f-body "lonely old",i love the f-bodies and used to have one,and like i said earlier,i used to beat my buddy's 6 speed with my stock c5 auto.Said my piece,laterz...


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