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Old 11-15-2011, 05:46 PM
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Default New best Cam Only, at MIR WCF, and lost to a NA civic??

I wrote this on a local site last week:



Last weekend I went to MIR in maryland for the import vs domestic race.
http://www.importvsdomestic.com/
This event is a ton of fun. Not just to race in, but to watch, and see everything there. One event has the fastest drag racing cars form all over, and they competitively race heads up. outlaw 10.5, x275, the pro import classes. Turbo mustangs, and turbo FWD imports head to head. Nitrous big block Chevy's, and big turbo 4 cylinders.



I entered the heads up All Motor class
http://importvsdomestic.com/rules/06...c_allmotor.pdf
And for a LS1 car basically I have to run stock unported heads. Limited to a factory intake, or a BBK or FAST. Tire a limited to 26x11.6 slicks or 275DR. Have to run mufflers, full interior with 2 seats. Stock suspension and mounts.
And no power adder. I had to add weight, to make the min weight limit for my engine size. I would rather run slicks over drag radials, but to run the smaller 26" I would need to change gears, change spool for that gear range, bearing and install kit. Change the ride height, and springs on the car. And buy a set of 26 slicks. It was easier and a LOT cheaper to just buy a set of used 275 DR from my friend (rob, 241gunz)for $100 and got them mounted on the 15x10 welds. At that time, the car had not gone faster then a 11.04 on a DR so that kinds sucked. I saw some of the all motor hondas went 10.1 at Honda day a few weeks before and some might go 9.9's. And heard some NMRA mustangs are going to enter all motor that have gone 9.8's.
I borrowed a trailer (thanks other rob) got weights and that **** thurs, Later handzel, and mark helped thu night, getting the 20 other little things done. (thanks) (The car was within 10 pound at MIR of what we guessed that was cool) Loaded up and on the road fir. morning to get tech in that night and not wait in line sat. (was a huge help) Nice drive, thu the hills of PA with great views, better then shitty OH. Get there and go to tech, Ive seen alot if fast domestics but never imports that really impressed me. Well I saw some, some bad *** NA FWD civics. ALot of **** I did or wanted to do on my GTP, And with a great engine (Ksires) battery right under passanger headlight,fuel cell under the other headlight, ITB, good header, weight bar low and forword Had to be 2150 race weight for a - 2.6L K
http://importvsdomestic.com/rules/06...t_allmotor.pdf
I go thu tech fine, 1st qualifier is sat morning All motor is 1st. Not sure if that was getto night?



Sat. Check the car over, set shocks, get fuel, check weight at scales. Wait to get called, go to lanes. 1st pass I let the clutch out to fast, spun the tires. Honda breaks, and go by some junk pass 11.3 (pics and vids off the GRS site http://www.grs-motorsports.net/index/index.html)
http://www.grs-motorsports.net/fotos...011/1105/3.jpg
First Qualifying Round All Motor
John Costello - 11.35 @ 128 MPH
Mark Podkowick - N/T

Vid of the whole class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZhcY...layer_embedded


Change the shocks back, (changed them alot with some recommendation) that was the 4th pass on DR. It was bouncy on the normal setting I run but it got down the track. Checked other things, changed the 2step and check out racing or walked around or a while. 2nd qualifying. was is a few hours. Guess there was about 30 cars in all motor. Some of the hondas broke, a few went 10.3-10.1s. The mustangs are really fast and did some big wheelie




2nd round, go to start the car it cranks weird but starts, and dose not want rev' just back fires bad? I knew it was the 2step, check it, I set it form 5800 to 600, not 6,000, thats will do it. Check a plug is fouled bad, pull them out as handzel clean them in and brake clean. Didn't have my spare set gaped and didn't have time to do it.Old plug go back in, go to the lanes. Honda brakes in the burnout box? got a bi run. Slip the cluch a little, launched better, didn't blow the tire away. All shifts ok, not as fast as I like. The trans need to be freshened been 4 years racing.


Did a little wheelie this pic was after it I guess.

All Motor 2nd round vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61XeoEaHSj4

Heres the latter after 2nd round

3rd round will be later in the night, got the new plugs in, and watched alot of fast cars. And a few clean ups so there running behind on time. It was getting cold as hell out too. that announced there reversing the order of 3rd round so all motor would be last. Around 8pm, after talking to some of he other AM guys and We would not get called until after midnight and most of the other hondas had there trans out of the car or were fixing somthing so I didnt think I would get bumped out. And track would suck anyway there was getting dew everywhere, we left to go out. I think 10-11pm the canceled 3rd rd anyway.






Sun the place was packed, the whole town was packed with heards of ricers, and stance **** meeting up to cruise in, It was a ricers dream.



All motor gets called 1st, that jason miller dude it pairing cars up. I know I'm gona race Jake Gavio from TGR, I talked to them in the pits him and tim are really cool. Conda civic gona 10.1 @ 130 I'm fucked.

Jessica Barton gives me some MT stickers to put on, didnt want to. Put them on all crooked. Then theres a garbage can caught on fire in the lanes, it was weird I put that out.



So I'm nervous, the stands are packed. Few cars go 1st the 1st-5th qualifiers. this is it.

I spin the tires, honda goes buy. ****. then I miss 3rd. ****. I lose.

First Elimination Round All Motor
Jake Gavio Civic - 10.19 @ 133 MPH (W)
John Costello Camaro - 11.65 @ 125 MPH

Vid
http://www.grs-motorsports.net/video...ir/wcf/127.wmv
5th pass on 275s so, spun 3 of them





All motor 1st round
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfyl4...layer_embedded



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http://www.flickr.com/photos/boger/
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...0111081&type=1
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2996583
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3148919...th/6317541324/
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...1807535&type=3

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great pics and vids, your car was riden. I know marco got around to talking to you but I did.
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Those k-series civics are no joke they are in the low 4's high 3's all motor and weigh nothing its pretty fucked up how they made you throw in your interior.
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are they really making 4xx whp?


I remember 350 was a lot a few years ago, so I asked as few guys. They didnt what to say but it wasn't 400.
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That looks like a great time! The honda b series can get down to. That is still a big choice today. I have a gsr swapped 94 hatchback but figured id give a camaro a try to. I like to watch all.
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Nice topic john.
It was nice meeting u as well.very cool dude with lots of knowledge.hit me if u every come back to mir man.
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Originally Posted by studderin
are they really making 4xx whp?


I remember 350 was a lot a few years ago, so I asked as few guys. They didnt what to say but it wasn't 400.
I know there making High 3's for a fact, last year i remember seeing the RStech f2k, making very high 3's. Those motors are pretty darn worked.
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Ya, I think they have to be over 4 now. DSS went 137 and jake was going 136 the other day

@ 2150 2160 pounds (the street AM) then went 135 at -750 -770 DA at WCF



I was at class weight at 3060 and only make 40 more HP. And running a 275DR with a t56. I'm super happy getting the 1.48 and a 10.65. I dont think many other t56 guys are running 275s. haha

I don't see how I'm gona get much faster with the rules.
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Originally Posted by studderin
Ya, I think they have to be over 4 now. DSS went 137 and jake was going 136 the other day

@ 2150 2160 pounds (the street AM) then went 135 at -750 -770 DA at WCF



I was at class weight at 3060 and only make 40 more HP. And running a 275DR with a t56. I'm super happy getting the 1.48 and a 10.65. I dont think many other t56 guys are running 275s. haha

I don't see how I'm gona get much faster with the rules.
MAN, exactly what i said earlier. Its pretty F'd up. I mean How is a car with only 40 whp more that weighs 1k more is supposed to compete with those other cars. The mustangs can weigh 2600 though wtf.
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I've been preaching this all along. They need to lighten up the rules a bit for the domestic guys. That's why hardly any domestics show up for this class. If you read the rules for the Mustangs it's just rediculous concerning the engine mods allowed. Basically a 5.0 fox with max of 313 cubes and they list all of the allowed heads. ZERO porting allowed. I personally don't know anyone with a modded Mustang that will fit the rules exactly, nor do I know anyone with a Mustang willing to build a motor specifically for this class. It seems like the rules were made just so an import would win.
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Ya those 2 mustang guys racing in NMRA, and I think NMCA Mean Street a little
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Originally Posted by joelster
I've been preaching this all along. They need to lighten up the rules a bit for the domestic guys. That's why hardly any domestics show up for this class. If you read the rules for the Mustangs it's just rediculous concerning the engine mods allowed. Basically a 5.0 fox with max of 313 cubes and they list all of the allowed heads. ZERO porting allowed. I personally don't know anyone with a modded Mustang that will fit the rules exactly, nor do I know anyone with a Mustang willing to build a motor specifically for this class. It seems like the rules were made just so an import would win.
Im with this guy. Even with the rules the domestic's came out on top so.
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Sweet write up man, cool vids too. I had no idea civics could be that nasty NA!

BTW, that pic with the girls, I'm friends with the girl in the middle's brother. Diana's a cool girl, really random seeing her in this thread.



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