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Old 07-07-2009, 08:14 AM
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Default 10.00@126...ok gurus inside please.

I watched some Sportsman drag racing this weekend on ESPN.

I watched a super stocker run 10.00@126 mph, How IN THE HELL is that?

What kinda 60 ft and 330 you gotta pull down to run that?

I was shocked.

I have similar mph, BUT I am .6 away from that. Our back 1/2 numbers would have to be similar, his front 1/2 numbers must be off the charts.
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It is called the of Stock & Super Stock racing. High rpms with very large gears and lots of money are just a few of the .

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Originally Posted by Coach 02 A3 Z/28
It is called the of Stock & Super Stock racing. High rpms with very large gears and lots of money are just a few of the .

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yes lots of money !!! most run 4.88 or bigger gears if im not mistaken
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These threads always **** me off because most of the time the questions never get answered. There is one guy that lurks around here that is pretty smart, I think his name is cnorton? Look for him he full of good stuff.
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He was probly on the brakes due to it being bracket style eliminations.
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Unless you have been apart of a build of a S.S. Car you just dont know what they do. I have had some exp with a car that ran that class. These are the type of cars that are so dialed in, and some sneaky as **** is done, that the normal racer just cannot compete with.

It is not uncommon for a SS car to go to the track with 4-6 different converters and gear set ups and 5-7 different sets of tires and compounds and they T&T to find out what works best for the car, and that is where the $$$ comes in.
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These threads always **** me off because most of the time the questions never get answered. There is one guy that lurks around here that is pretty smart, I think his name is cnorton? Look for him he full of good stuff.

People pay alot of money to have these type of questions answered.

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Originally Posted by ssracer8
He was probly on the brakes due to it being bracket style eliminations.
He dialed a 10.03 and ran a 10.00, he ran all the way out the back door.
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Originally Posted by ndfrsd6
yes lots of money !!! most run 4.88 or bigger gears if im not mistaken
Yeh but had a back half car with huge tires, I would think his 4.88 with a 31-32 inch tall tire would act the same as my 4.11 with a 28 inch tire, rpm wise anyway.
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Gizmo can help answer alot of questions and he runs an LT1
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These numbers are from a run that I made in my old Camaro LT1 Stocker.

1.355

4.188

6.614 @ 101.03

8.720

10.510 @ 122.36

There is a lot to running Stock and Super Stock. My stuff doesn't make a lot of HP. It is just more efficient than your average Hot Rod.
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I'm no expert, but you thinking his first 1/2 numbers being off the charts and then you commenting on how he has a backhalf car with 30+ in meat should help you understand how he is getting those killer #'s in the first part of his run.
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Its kind of like how in the hell did ruqwiker go 10.60's with a stock long block
motor.

These cars are setup very well. They have alot of time in them. I'm just starting at it and its been alot of fun.

So far I've been 10.78 at 122 my 60' needs some improving and I hope to go some 10.60's.
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Super Stock racing is a different ball game. It's sort of a case of apples and oranges.

Actually, his MPH was a little off for the ET. I built and ran an LT1 Super Stock Firebird for several years and typical incremental numbers looked like this run from a Divisional race Phoenix in 2005:
R/T 0.007 (not really an incremental but I thought it was cool)
60' 1.341 (best ever for that car has been 1.29)
330 4.054 (it has run in the 3.9's a few times in good air)
1/8th 6.369
1/8 MPH 106.080
1000' 8.375
1/4 ET 10.084
1/4 MPH 132.210 (on the two runs just after that one the car tripped the MPH beams with the nose of the car and kicked out a 137+ MPH - it does that from time to time)

On that run the car weighed 3050# with me in the seat. The same car set the SS/IA record in 2004 at 9.74 @ 135.80.

Rear tire circumference was 101 inches, the rear gear was a 5.67 in a 9" Ford housing. For reference purposes the engine rules in Super Stock are relatively liberal. The car has an LT1 Corvette block bored .060", ported heads with 175cc intake runners and 68cc exhaust runners. It has a solid roller with shaft-mounted rocker arms, a sheet metal manifold, a stock throttle body, a Jesel belt timing system, a Holley Commander 950 fuel management system. The torque converter flashes to about 6200 in good air. The transmission is a TH200 metric with a 2.40 low gear.

Generally speaking, the preparation for competing in Super Stock is fairly extreme and most street driven cars are difficult to correlate in terms of performance.

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I new you lurked around here lol. Nice post it really helps put things in perspective.
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Good thread. Cool info and I don't think I will try racing in a class like this no time soon!
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c, thanks for the good read. I enjoy reading about the exploits of serious racers to no end.
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Originally Posted by TA1364
I new you lurked around here lol. Nice post it really helps put things in perspective.
The way I look at it, we've all been hit in the head with the same hammer, competitive drag racing. I just got hit way back when Stock and Super Stock were the coolest game in town. Hell, when I started, bracket racing hadn't been invented and we left the line when the flagman signaled, "GO!" I've been competing for well over 40 years and I still get a kick out of it. I'm amazed by some of the exploits of the nitrous guys although I've never had an urge to do anything other than what I do now. I think it's cool that people occasionally have an interest in what lights someone else's fire and I'm humbled by the thought that someone has noticed that our experiences have relevance in the modern world. Thanks for giving me a chance to join in.

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Thanks for sharing some info cnorton, we always wonder what gear and converter folks are running. Was that a 9x30 tire car or a big tire car?
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Originally Posted by cnorton
The way I look at it, we've all been hit in the head with the same hammer, competitive drag racing. I just got hit way back when Stock and Super Stock were the coolest game in town. Hell, when I started, bracket racing hadn't been invented and we left the line when the flagman signaled, "GO!" I've been competing for well over 40 years and I still get a kick out of it. I'm amazed by some of the exploits of the nitrous guys although I've never had an urge to do anything other than what I do now. I think it's cool that people occasionally have an interest in what lights someone else's fire and I'm humbled by the thought that someone has noticed that our experiences have relevance in the modern world. Thanks for giving me a chance to join in.

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Nice post.



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