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Old 11-20-2009, 10:29 AM
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im trying to make the s.i list and my best run to date is 11.77@115.30 1.60'
right now im running 255/50/16 mt drag radials on snowflakes.im going to be picking up some 15" rims soon and want to know what would get me down the 1/4 faster.
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hoosier QTP pro's-26 X 9.50-15 weight 17lbs
hoosier slicks-----26.0/9.0-15 weight 18lbs
mt slicks---------26.0/10.0-15 weight 22lbs
mt drag radials---P275/50R15 26 X 11.50R15 weight 31lbs

tires are only for the strip,looking for something thats going to hook hard and keep up the mph netting me the best 1/4 mile time.

im leaning towards hoosier qtp cause there way lighter than the mt drag radials,it seems i always hear a sponser saying his wheels have a big advantage cause there the lightest on the market,so shouldnt this be true in a tire also,IDK some on school me on tires,please.
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a quote from the man himself

"If you compare our drag wheels to theirs, ours are lightest...compare our new street designs to their street designs...ours are lighter...they don't offer a road race design that I'm aware of so I can't give you those comparisons.

Our wheels are also direct fit whereas they do not offer both front/rear direct fit wheels. If you're looking at our LS1 direct fit drag wheels compared to their street/strip wheels...there's no comparison regarding weight. Realistically though, its not really a fair comparison as its apples to oranges for their intended usage. For a weight comparison if you're curious, if you use our direct fit LS1 front/rear drag wheels it would be like you've lost about 64 converted static lbs from your car!"

Ive also heard rotational weight has the outcome of about 4x that of stationary weight.so a tire that weighs 10lbs lighter is like losing 40lbs from your car? 10x4=40 now combine that with 2 rear tires is like 80lbs?
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Seems to me you will want the lightest tire possible that will hook. The key is to accelerate faster that way you can mph to the end (sooner you accelerate in the 60', the more mph you have to carry the difference of the track). Seems Bias Ply fits the lightest. Don' t know how much more a DR weighs, but I hear they mph a little better.

but, i ain't the expert. Test and tune and let us know the results.
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Radials are usually heavier than slicks, but remember a few things beyond the weight:

#1-they won't grow as the car gains speed (effectively changing your rear end gear ratio)
#2-less rolling resistance than a slick

FWIW: my Nova runs about .05 quicker on a 275/60/15 M/T drag radial versus a 28 x 10.5 x 15 ET Drag on the same wheels.

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hoosier all the way either the qtp or the drag radials are amazing compared to the mt my family runs hoosier on all 4 race cars thats et's from 12.90 -9.50 for you i'd probably go with the drag radial they work with these cars
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
Seems to me you will want the lightest tire possible that will hook. The key is to accelerate faster that way you can mph to the end (sooner you accelerate in the 60', the more mph you have to carry the difference of the track). Seems Bias Ply fits the lightest. Don' t know how much more a DR weighs, but I hear they mph a little better.

but, i ain't the expert. Test and tune and let us know the results.
test and tune now that would be awesome but I dont have that much money,maybe I can buy used test them then resell the ones that dont perform the best.nope that wont work cause I will also need rims cause it would have to be the same day,same track.
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Originally Posted by Villain281H
Radials are usually heavier than slicks, but remember a few things beyond the weight:

#1-they won't grow as the car gains speed (effectively changing your rear end gear ratio)
#2-less rolling resistance than a slick

FWIW: my Nova runs about .05 quicker on a 275/60/15 M/T drag radial versus a 28 x 10.5 x 15 ET Drag on the same wheels.

Derek
good to know,anyone else?with real world results like the above.for you car mt drag radials>mt slicks
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I had a buddy (shortdog) user name, that went from a 1.60-1.62 ish 60's on mt 255/50-16

to a slick tire(maybe hoosier) and ran a new best with a 1.59x 60' 1/4 got better also by I think 11.57 to a 11.4x, other change was a fast toys air lid vs slp lid.
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Originally Posted by silverz28camaro
I had a buddy (shortdog) user name, that went from a 1.60-1.62 ish 60's on mt 255/50-16

to a slick tire(maybe hoosier) and ran a new best with a 1.59x 60' 1/4 got better also by I think 11.57 to a 11.4x, other change was a fast toys air lid vs slp lid.
don't forget about the addition of the coolant by pass.
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
don't forget about the addition of the coolant by pass.
What do you mean?
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If you want Abe, we could go to the track and run on each others tires. I have 26/10.5/16 ET streets, not a slick but they are a bias ply tire. I've been wanting to try a stiffer sidewall tire to see if it would take the hit better so this would be good for both of us. Let me know.
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Originally Posted by stoverz28
If you want Abe, we could go to the track and run on each others tires. I have 26/10.5/16 ET streets, not a slick but they are a bias ply tire. I've been wanting to try a stiffer sidewall tire to see if it would take the hit better so this would be good for both of us. Let me know.
let us know the results if ya'll go.
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I think buying used tires is like buying a used condom. Used tires will never hook like new ones. Not an apples to apples deal.

I have 275/60 mt drs and a set of 28x10.5 mt slicks and my car will hook better on the slicks. It takes a very well prepped track for my car to work on the drs. Now that is due to my setup not being ideal for drs.

Slicks are going to be more forgiving on track that are not prepped really well or if your chassis setup is not perfect.

The drs have a faster reaction time and do not grow making it nice to run tight tire clearance around the wheel well. With slicks you will want to allow at least 1" clearance around the tire.

Hoosier or Mickey's are both going to work well.
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I think used tires are better cause there broken in,right?,Idk im no expert just trying to make my car a little faster.

I hope your right cause I bought my 255/50/16 dr used and they hook me all day long to 1.60-1.64',so with new ones i should hook better?mine aint bold probably 60% life left.
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Hoosier 275/50/15 drag radials for sure. I love them and they are way lighter than the mickeys. I weighed mine when I got them and got 24 lbs each, not the 22 that hoosier advertises though.
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So what do you say Abe, wanna swap tires at the track? I've read before that dr's are better for six speeds and a bias ply is better for autos.

I went 1.65-1.69 last time on the et streets with a fairly soft launch.
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Originally Posted by stoverz28
So what do you say Abe, wanna swap tires at the track? I've read before that dr's are better for six speeds and a bias ply is better for autos.

I went 1.65-1.69 last time on the et streets with a fairly soft launch.
You've got that backwards my friend.
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Originally Posted by MikeG
You've got that backwards my friend.
thats exactly what i was gonna say.
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softer sidewall is better for sixpeeds since they hit the tires harder.im gonna get some Hoosier 275/50/15 drag radials mounted on some ugly convos.that should shave about 30lbs of rotating wait and should hook better than my 255/50/16mt
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Originally Posted by mikeg
you've got that backwards my friend.
Originally Posted by nickp
thats exactly what i was gonna say.
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