First time out with nitrous, need some help and advise
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First time out with nitrous, need some help and advise
I took my car out to the strip for the first time with my nitrous, new rear end, and suspension thats in my sig. Well the first pass it bogged really bad. So I turned my progressive off and just ran a full 150 shot. The next two passes I spun but it didnt blow the tires off, 1.8 60'. All the mods done to the car are in my sig. I am on a 275/60/15 M/T radial set at 14psi. My pinion angle is set to
-2.5*. What do I have to do to be able to launch and dead hook with the spray?
-2.5*. What do I have to do to be able to launch and dead hook with the spray?
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are you footbreaking it as much as it will take or are you flashing the converter ??? what size converter are you using??? might just have to play around and see what works best for you. make sure your getting the tires sticky enough too or maybe the track prep sucks.
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I have a 3600 stall. I did both, stalled the car up till right before I pushed threw the lights, then just flashed it. I spun both those times. The tires were set to 14psi and I always line up in the grooves. Should I adjust the pinion angle anymore or what?
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I'm on stock springs and shocks, I know aftermarket ones would be better but I would think with my size tire and all the adjustable suspension I have it would hook. Its spinning so bad its blowing the tires, but it is spinning past the 60'.
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What about if I change my control arm setting on my relocation bracket? My relocation brackets have 4 different holes and it is currently on the second from the bottom. Like I said the car is stock height, so should I bring the control arm up a hole?
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What did you have the progressive start % set at? Try like 50% out of the gate (75 horse) and progress it over like 2 seconds. If it spins, back the starting % down; if it bogs, raise it up. Gotta find what your car wants.
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I see that have an A4 ???
"Back in the days" when the SS was on nitrous and the T-400 (with a trans-brake), I had 5000 stall. Set the 2-step at 5200, nitrous cut-off while on the T/B. Launched at 5200 on a 200 shot no spin. Cut 1.3's all day long. Tire were 30x10.5x15 Hoosier Radial-style slicks.
I believe you will see most of the 275 DR with great times are boosted. Nitrous is way different. Your spring and shocks DO make a huge difference. Not sure you're going to get great 60's on 275 with the nitrous. To show the difference - the shop mustang (turbo'd) running on 275's will cut 'only' 1.4's 60' but still run 8.7's at 170 - full race weight is over 3600lbs, runs on a glide.
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"Back in the days" when the SS was on nitrous and the T-400 (with a trans-brake), I had 5000 stall. Set the 2-step at 5200, nitrous cut-off while on the T/B. Launched at 5200 on a 200 shot no spin. Cut 1.3's all day long. Tire were 30x10.5x15 Hoosier Radial-style slicks.
I believe you will see most of the 275 DR with great times are boosted. Nitrous is way different. Your spring and shocks DO make a huge difference. Not sure you're going to get great 60's on 275 with the nitrous. To show the difference - the shop mustang (turbo'd) running on 275's will cut 'only' 1.4's 60' but still run 8.7's at 170 - full race weight is over 3600lbs, runs on a glide.
Good luck guy
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David I don't want to ruin your day but there's nitrous cars 60 footing in the bottom 1.2's on 275/60 m/t tires.. the x275 cars are getting it done, and there's a good # of them (various ford, chevy, etc.etc) going in the 5.2 at over 135 mph....
You need to hit that tire hard and keep it planted. I'd up the air pressure to about 16 to 17, try that and see what it gets you. Pinion angle isn't gonna help, try moving the control arms up, then down, see what that gets you.
At your power level there's absolutely no reason you can't dead hook that tire, shocks are gonna be your next step to get the car leaving better... but I think there's a good bit left.
Also, if you do spin, blip the throttle, radials don't recover at all, once they're spinning you're not gonna get them to grab again, or at least for a LONG time if you don't get out of it for a split second.
You need to hit that tire hard and keep it planted. I'd up the air pressure to about 16 to 17, try that and see what it gets you. Pinion angle isn't gonna help, try moving the control arms up, then down, see what that gets you.
At your power level there's absolutely no reason you can't dead hook that tire, shocks are gonna be your next step to get the car leaving better... but I think there's a good bit left.
Also, if you do spin, blip the throttle, radials don't recover at all, once they're spinning you're not gonna get them to grab again, or at least for a LONG time if you don't get out of it for a split second.
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David I don't want to ruin your day but there's nitrous cars 60 footing in the bottom 1.2's on 275/60 m/t tires.. the x275 cars are getting it done, and there's a good # of them (various ford, chevy, etc.etc) going in the 5.2 at over 135 mph....
You need to hit that tire hard and keep it planted. I'd up the air pressure to about 16 to 17, try that and see what it gets you. Pinion angle isn't gonna help, try moving the control arms up, then down, see what that gets you.
At your power level there's absolutely no reason you can't dead hook that tire, shocks are gonna be your next step to get the car leaving better... but I think there's a good bit left.
Also, if you do spin, blip the throttle, radials don't recover at all, once they're spinning you're not gonna get them to grab again, or at least for a LONG time if you don't get out of it for a split second.
You need to hit that tire hard and keep it planted. I'd up the air pressure to about 16 to 17, try that and see what it gets you. Pinion angle isn't gonna help, try moving the control arms up, then down, see what that gets you.
At your power level there's absolutely no reason you can't dead hook that tire, shocks are gonna be your next step to get the car leaving better... but I think there's a good bit left.
Also, if you do spin, blip the throttle, radials don't recover at all, once they're spinning you're not gonna get them to grab again, or at least for a LONG time if you don't get out of it for a split second.
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Also there is a guy on here, SMITH that has a x275 car that has a best of 5.07 I believe, I always try to make it to the track to watch if I know him and the RPM crew will be out. Its crazy how fast some of these people are going with that tire!
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also with the radials you need decent track prep to even start to make it hook, they are great on a good track, hit and miss on a marginal track and not great on a poorly prepped track.
You need more tire pressure in them, 17-18 pounds if not more. We have had a car run as much as 22 and go low 1.4's on a good track.
and just because you have lcas, phb, ta doesnt mean you have adjustable suspension, you dont have much to adjust at all, shocks play a huge factor in that along with a larger rear sway bar.
You need more tire pressure in them, 17-18 pounds if not more. We have had a car run as much as 22 and go low 1.4's on a good track.
and just because you have lcas, phb, ta doesnt mean you have adjustable suspension, you dont have much to adjust at all, shocks play a huge factor in that along with a larger rear sway bar.
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Camscam02: All that suspension you just named off of mine is adjustable. I do realize I dont have "fully adj" suspension, and I understand shocks and springs will do wonders for the car. I'm new to drag racing, at this new level. But I do know that adjusting the pinion angle and lca's in the relocation brackets will effect the traction a lot. My tq army had 4 different holes to put it on the cross member. Like I said I am new to this but to me it seems like it is quite a bit to adjust, the only thing left to adjust would be shocks, you cant adjust a rear anti sway bar. I was just wondering if anybody on here has been able to hook up on a 150 shot with similar mods was all. Good job on your car btw, I love what you have done with so little.
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Yeah a buddy put 17 psi in the tires and I could tell it helped a lot. So you think a -2.5* pinion angle is good?
Camscam02: All that suspension you just named off of mine is adjustable. I do realize I dont have "fully adj" suspension, and I understand shocks and springs will do wonders for the car. I'm new to drag racing, at this new level. But I do know that adjusting the pinion angle and lca's in the relocation brackets will effect the traction a lot. My tq army had 4 different holes to put it on the cross member. Like I said I am new to this but to me it seems like it is quite a bit to adjust, the only thing left to adjust would be shocks, you cant adjust a rear anti sway bar. I was just wondering if anybody on here has been able to hook up on a 150 shot with similar mods was all. Good job on your car btw, I love what you have done with so little.
Camscam02: All that suspension you just named off of mine is adjustable. I do realize I dont have "fully adj" suspension, and I understand shocks and springs will do wonders for the car. I'm new to drag racing, at this new level. But I do know that adjusting the pinion angle and lca's in the relocation brackets will effect the traction a lot. My tq army had 4 different holes to put it on the cross member. Like I said I am new to this but to me it seems like it is quite a bit to adjust, the only thing left to adjust would be shocks, you cant adjust a rear anti sway bar. I was just wondering if anybody on here has been able to hook up on a 150 shot with similar mods was all. Good job on your car btw, I love what you have done with so little.
pinion angle doesnt effect traction much at all mostly getting driveline angles set, niether does have adjustable lcas or phb, they lcas and phb locate the rearend to center the car, the relocation can cause you to hit the tire more or less depending on hole and moving the torque arm in the front holes effects instant center, all you said you adjusted was pinion angle and that wont help one bit.
Yes you can adjust a rear sway bar such as the wolfe, bmr, umi, etc. how do you think you get the car to leave straight and apply equal weight to the rear tires?
so there is much more for you to understand and I think you are fighting the track prep and tire more then anything.