Drag Racing Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Best way to get air to 4150 tb

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-25-2012, 05:20 PM
  #1  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (96)
 
RENE'S RAGE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,387
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default Best way to get air to 4150 tb

I have a super victor and fast 4150 tb. Cowl has been cut away.
Need to buy a hood. Not many choices out there. Leaning toward a
VFN 5" Sloped extented to windshield.
I want to get as much air into the motor as possible. Any ideals?
Do I want a hood that extends to the windshield or stops at the cowl?
Or what?
Old 01-25-2012, 08:31 PM
  #2  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
98blueSScamaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Aurora IL
Posts: 1,660
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Seen a guy on here make a nice clean setup to go from a fast toys lid to a carb hat all sealed from lid to carb hat smooth bends and looked clean. also when the car ran on the dyno open t/b made good power. put that setup on with the hat and lid and gained 5 so not loss.
Old 01-25-2012, 09:13 PM
  #3  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (96)
 
RENE'S RAGE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,387
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

I think I recall that set up. I don't have the lid and lower ram air box anymore.
When I had the lid and fast 92, I cut the baffles out of the hood and seal the hood to the lid and pick up .13 in the 1/4 mile.
I would like some kind of ram air for this set up.
Old 01-25-2012, 11:10 PM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (23)
 
xpndbl3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: orland park, IL
Posts: 1,568
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

jerry bickle 4150 carb velocity pan, and then build a carb pan around that sealed to the cowl and open in the rear.
Old 01-26-2012, 12:12 AM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (28)
 
studderin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 5,556
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

running a maff and airfilter, not much other chose then carb hat to Lid.
Old 01-26-2012, 06:48 AM
  #6  
Launching!
iTrader: (7)
 
fatboyzcamaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: MARYLAND
Posts: 230
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Any body have any pics of this set up.
Old 01-26-2012, 07:35 AM
  #7  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (48)
 
a98ws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: KCMO
Posts: 2,273
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Im looking at the same issue. I am switching to a super vic with either the 4150 Accufab, or a Wilson (non low profile) intake elbow with a 102mm tb on front. I just sold my lower air box so the lid setup is out. I have a 4" ws6 sloped, bolt on hood.
Stangkilr had a lid/carb hat if you wanted to go that route.
Im looking for something different.
Old 01-26-2012, 11:34 AM
  #8  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
redsscamaroboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lansing,MI
Posts: 1,168
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

That thing is gonna fly when your all done.
Old 01-26-2012, 01:33 PM
  #9  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
BADD SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Baldwin, NY
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

This was my first attempt that I made in an hour or so, second attemped was a little smoother, and a bigger air cleaner. Picked up a couple mph from running nothing. I have a regular sunoco hood, and I attached the stock plastics back, with a couple tabs.
Attached Thumbnails Best way to get air to 4150 tb-307846_2571697973383_1282261905_33080511_426907472_n.jpg  
Old 01-26-2012, 04:33 PM
  #10  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (46)
 
subhumanzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 1,037
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

this is going on a 418? if so i would think about using a 4500 tb. i dont have a pan on mine yet and am just running a stack with the extended sunoco.

Old 01-27-2012, 05:22 PM
  #11  
Race your car!
iTrader: (50)
 
JL ws-6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,420
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts

Default

Sub how close is that to the hood? I wonder if you may want to think about having a scoop molded into the hood, like a small harwood type so the engine has some room to breathe (and room to go with a taller intake later on too)
Old 01-27-2012, 07:02 PM
  #12  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (46)
 
subhumanzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 1,037
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

they say you want it to be 1 - 1 1/2" below the hood. mine is sitting a little over an inch below.
Old 01-28-2012, 08:38 AM
  #13  
Race your car!
iTrader: (50)
 
JL ws-6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,420
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts

Default

Yeah that would be about the minimum I'd think.

Scoop, and if you made a pan to seal it would make a difference I bet.
Old 01-28-2012, 10:08 AM
  #14  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (46)
 
subhumanzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 1,037
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

im not putting a scoop on the car, i think they look like ****.
Old 01-28-2012, 10:34 AM
  #15  
10 Second Club
 
Doug G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Harford Co. Maryland
Posts: 4,285
Received 106 Likes on 94 Posts

Default

See a lot of guys with scoops on top of cowl hoods ???? I don't know the theory though.

I would look into making the hood scoops work for you to keep the "stock look" (I love the R/A 'Birds....just mean looking IMO).
Old 01-28-2012, 11:46 AM
  #16  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (96)
 
RENE'S RAGE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,387
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by redsscamaroboy
That thing is gonna fly when your all done.
Thanks Dave, still liking the hood.
Old 01-28-2012, 11:52 AM
  #17  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (96)
 
RENE'S RAGE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,387
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by BADD SS
This was my first attempt that I made in an hour or so, second attemped was a little smoother, and a bigger air cleaner. Picked up a couple mph from running nothing. I have a regular sunoco hood, and I attached the stock plastics back, with a couple tabs.
That's what I'm thinking about doing.
Just don't know which way to get air in from the VFN 5" sloped hood.
Does the air come from the cowl or from the nostrils in front of the hood.
Old 01-28-2012, 12:00 PM
  #18  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (96)
 
RENE'S RAGE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,387
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by subhumanzz
they say you want it to be 1 - 1 1/2" below the hood. mine is sitting a little over an inch below.
Yeah, 418. Shawn and I talk about the 4500, but he said he thought the 4150 would be enought air.

Why just a inch or inch and a half below the hood. I always heard you want as much as you could get. To get more air in. Seems that 1 - 1 1/2", you would be choking it.
Old 01-28-2012, 12:04 PM
  #19  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (96)
 
RENE'S RAGE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,387
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by a98ws6
Im looking at the same issue. I am switching to a super vic with either the 4150 Accufab, or a Wilson (non low profile) intake elbow with a 102mm tb on front. I just sold my lower air box so the lid setup is out. I have a 4" ws6 sloped, bolt on hood.
Stangkilr had a lid/carb hat if you wanted to go that route.
Im looking for something different.
Does your 4" sloped go all the way back to your windshield.
Old 01-28-2012, 02:42 PM
  #20  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (12)
 
Slowhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bridgewater,Ma
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

I looked at that TB but went with this setup. 105mm TB and huge 90. It flowed even and fed my 427ci very well.Piped it to use the ram air from the hood but can't find any pics of that. 4" sloped bolt-on hood.
Attached Thumbnails Best way to get air to 4150 tb-010.jpg  


Quick Reply: Best way to get air to 4150 tb



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:27 AM.