Fit 29x13.5x15 Hoosier QTP DOT without minitub?
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Fit 29x13.5x15 Hoosier QTP DOT without minitub?
Found a pair locally for a good price... they can fit on 15x10's but my question is would they fit on an f-body?
I do not mind severe clearancing.. I just want to roll on a big tire and actually hook the car. With the car as light as it is, there isn't much that really pushes the rear tires to the pavement.
I do not mind severe clearancing.. I just want to roll on a big tire and actually hook the car. With the car as light as it is, there isn't much that really pushes the rear tires to the pavement.
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I have an honest question Magnus.
How is it that your car being very light(which in theory makes a smaller tire easier to hook) and stock internals needs a tire that big?
For example Rich(silver98Z) local guy who I'm sure you know of that is running 10.70's all day long with 1.4X sixties, uses 26" slicks?? His converter is just as big and he's making something like 430 RWHP.
Do you really have any suspension? I'm only putting this out there as food for thought because in all reality your car should not need a big *** tire, and it would suck to go hacking the hell out of it to fit them only to get working on suspension or something and then start bogging it and have to change back.
I just don't know the details of your suspension stuff which is really the basis of my questions about why you can't hook on a somewhat normal sized tire..
How is it that your car being very light(which in theory makes a smaller tire easier to hook) and stock internals needs a tire that big?
For example Rich(silver98Z) local guy who I'm sure you know of that is running 10.70's all day long with 1.4X sixties, uses 26" slicks?? His converter is just as big and he's making something like 430 RWHP.
Do you really have any suspension? I'm only putting this out there as food for thought because in all reality your car should not need a big *** tire, and it would suck to go hacking the hell out of it to fit them only to get working on suspension or something and then start bogging it and have to change back.
I just don't know the details of your suspension stuff which is really the basis of my questions about why you can't hook on a somewhat normal sized tire..
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I can't see you needing a tire that big either....
I got a 28x12.5x15 ET street, that I will most likely have to ditch for a 28x10 full out slick if I want traction......
I plan on having somewhere around 650-700rwhp.....
I got a 28x12.5x15 ET street, that I will most likely have to ditch for a 28x10 full out slick if I want traction......
I plan on having somewhere around 650-700rwhp.....
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SilverGhost, its mainly for street traction. I want to be able to punch it at speeds less than 70 and actually grip the street. For the track I want to run a 26" tall slick on a 15x10.
The street just doesn't hook as good as US 41 does.
I have V6 shocks in back with V6 springs. Front I have HAL R's with V6 springs, k-member, a-arms, drag brakes..
Cage should be going in on monday and then I will have a drag anti-roll bar installed as well.
I did dead hook a 26" QTP before, just not very consistantly.
Just note, this is not my racing tire. And yea, I'm sure my car will go through many changes.
I set aside some time tonight to work on the car so I'll probably pull my old wheels off and start clearancing the fenders.
Chances are I would have to test fit these though before I actually install them. Seems like it will take a bit of work (which is ok).. just not to the point where I am welding new sheet metal on the car.
The street just doesn't hook as good as US 41 does.
I have V6 shocks in back with V6 springs. Front I have HAL R's with V6 springs, k-member, a-arms, drag brakes..
Cage should be going in on monday and then I will have a drag anti-roll bar installed as well.
I did dead hook a 26" QTP before, just not very consistantly.
Just note, this is not my racing tire. And yea, I'm sure my car will go through many changes.
I set aside some time tonight to work on the car so I'll probably pull my old wheels off and start clearancing the fenders.
Chances are I would have to test fit these though before I actually install them. Seems like it will take a bit of work (which is ok).. just not to the point where I am welding new sheet metal on the car.
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we are using a tire of the size 29.5x13x15 and had to tub the car, but we also did a 4 link and a custom rear axle (this is on the Demon SS project)
on Brad's car(this is Demon SS just logged in as Brad) we are running a 28x12.5x15 and had to do some clearencing with that. any bigger and it will be a squeeze for sure.
on Brad's car(this is Demon SS just logged in as Brad) we are running a 28x12.5x15 and had to do some clearencing with that. any bigger and it will be a squeeze for sure.
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Demon SS, thanks a lot for the info.
I started to clearance the car. I took out my die grinder and attached a nice cutting wheel. I cut the front of the fender so it drops straigiht down and will be doign the same for the rear. I will also be cutting the inner fender near the LCA's.
Resale value? ... I thought we bought these cars for life.
I started to clearance the car. I took out my die grinder and attached a nice cutting wheel. I cut the front of the fender so it drops straigiht down and will be doign the same for the rear. I will also be cutting the inner fender near the LCA's.
Resale value? ... I thought we bought these cars for life.
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Demon SS, thanks a lot for the info.
I started to clearance the car. I took out my die grinder and attached a nice cutting wheel. I cut the front of the fender so it drops straigiht down and will be doign the same for the rear. I will also be cutting the inner fender near the LCA's.
Resale value? ... I thought we bought these cars for life.
I started to clearance the car. I took out my die grinder and attached a nice cutting wheel. I cut the front of the fender so it drops straigiht down and will be doign the same for the rear. I will also be cutting the inner fender near the LCA's.
Resale value? ... I thought we bought these cars for life.
Coach
PS. I bought mine for life.
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Chris, pleas let me know where you are cutting/grinding. Right now I'm just clearancing everything but I assume the big problem area will be the front inner part of the well.
I need a bigger hammer.
I need a bigger hammer.
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Here's what I did for my Ws...
-cut off bumpstop & flanges
-beat down along the seam weld towards the front (it'll push in about 1" to 1.5")
-trimmed front of rear urethane bumper flat
-beat in upper indent right above the wheel (this is where the latch is for the rear seats)
-got adjustable tubular control arms and offset them 1.25" towards the center of the car and moved the rear back about 1"
I think they fit OK.
http://www.quarter-mile.net/images/TA/misc/rear02.gif
http://www.quarter-mile.net/images/TA/hood/hood02.gif
-cut off bumpstop & flanges
-beat down along the seam weld towards the front (it'll push in about 1" to 1.5")
-trimmed front of rear urethane bumper flat
-beat in upper indent right above the wheel (this is where the latch is for the rear seats)
-got adjustable tubular control arms and offset them 1.25" towards the center of the car and moved the rear back about 1"
I think they fit OK.
http://www.quarter-mile.net/images/TA/misc/rear02.gif
http://www.quarter-mile.net/images/TA/hood/hood02.gif
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[QUOTE=Magnus]SilverGhost, its mainly for street traction. I want to be able to punch it at speeds less than 70 and actually grip the street.
If your only running about 117 in the quarter on full slicks, how in the hell do you loose traction at 70 mph on the street?? I can't see that even on bone stock radials!!!!!
I am confused...and yes I have a fast street car too,,,runs mid 11's on radials...got M&H's on it now.
get a 26 X 11.5 X 16 tire, should be pleanty.
If your only running about 117 in the quarter on full slicks, how in the hell do you loose traction at 70 mph on the street?? I can't see that even on bone stock radials!!!!!
I am confused...and yes I have a fast street car too,,,runs mid 11's on radials...got M&H's on it now.
get a 26 X 11.5 X 16 tire, should be pleanty.
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Keith...
i did like mongse said. beat that front lower area in alot. it fits, but with a 7/16" spacer on the rear, YUCK. Luckily i'm not even going to try and race it till everything is done. With the cutoff wheel, i'm gonna make it look like Madman's inner area. Basically void of everything that is the inner fender. I have adjustable lca's so i positioned it perfectly center in the wheelwell, and i have room to fit a 29" tire, not counting what it expands at speeds though. I don't need that large of tire so I guess that's a moot point. but just like mongse, i had them built like the Billingsley LCA's and offset inwards since they are a rod end LCA. Check out his site in case you don't know what i'm talking about.
also, look back to this thread...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ghlight=madman
got some pics posted up from NRC Motorsports and how they fit a large tire in there. Madman's pic was up but maybe they were taken down. I have it saved on my laptop to view when starting this project. I talked to the guy who built my sfc's, lca's and panhard rod(local guy) and he said it looked fine to cut all that area out. Just maybe need a bit of "rebracing" if you take too much out.
Chris
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i did like mongse said. beat that front lower area in alot. it fits, but with a 7/16" spacer on the rear, YUCK. Luckily i'm not even going to try and race it till everything is done. With the cutoff wheel, i'm gonna make it look like Madman's inner area. Basically void of everything that is the inner fender. I have adjustable lca's so i positioned it perfectly center in the wheelwell, and i have room to fit a 29" tire, not counting what it expands at speeds though. I don't need that large of tire so I guess that's a moot point. but just like mongse, i had them built like the Billingsley LCA's and offset inwards since they are a rod end LCA. Check out his site in case you don't know what i'm talking about.
also, look back to this thread...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ghlight=madman
got some pics posted up from NRC Motorsports and how they fit a large tire in there. Madman's pic was up but maybe they were taken down. I have it saved on my laptop to view when starting this project. I talked to the guy who built my sfc's, lca's and panhard rod(local guy) and he said it looked fine to cut all that area out. Just maybe need a bit of "rebracing" if you take too much out.
Chris
Chris