98TAauto

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thinking of modding up here soon. But i was wondering if ya'll have any ET's before and after the cam with stock heads?? Im wondering if i could squeeze 3 tenths from it and maybe pull some 11.6's?? My biggest concern is picking up MPH cause these autos suck from a roll <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

but would this cam be good if i do ported heads later on? and i will ocassionaly spray a 75-100dry shot also.

if you have this cam, how's the street manners? idle good?

im just wondering what i would see in a NA car with a vig3600 and all other bolt ons except ls6 intake <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

i can get consistent 11.9's on nittos, but i want to be able to leave easier off the line(save rear) and still hit mid-upper 11's consistent <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> in other words i wanna pull like a mother up top <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Fireball

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I think you'd see a solid 3 tenths at least.

Another interesting candidate if you want top end pulling power would be the new TR 230/224 cam <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

98TAauto

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fireball:
<strong>I think you'd see a solid 3 tenths at least.

Another interesting candidate if you want top end pulling power would be the new TR 230/224 cam <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fireball, i saw a few guys talking about that.. thats the big difference besides it being 230/224?

i mean will it be any less streetable?? its gotta be some side effect <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Fireball

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it'll lope hard but you have a big enough convertor (though it may want a bit more stall) and you can adjust idle speeds and stuff with edit

do you have emissions testing there? that might be the kicker to force you into a 224/224 114

fastlif

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98taauto:
how the hell are you running that fast? I have heads/cam etc and only run what you run stock internal..........??!@#$%^&*()

same gear/same convertor dam whats up?

what do you weigh?

Mike Hoffpauir

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 98TAauto:
<strong>Im wondering if i could squeeze 3 tenths from it and maybe pull some 11.6's?? My biggest concern is picking up MPH cause these autos suck from a roll <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

i will ocassionaly spray a 75-100dry shot also.

i can get consistent 11.9's on nittos, but i want to be able to leave easier off the line(save rear) and still hit mid-upper 11's consistent <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> in other words i wanna pull like a mother up top <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right, so why not just spray the hell out of the car?
That way you could leave as easy as you wanted and run really hard on the big end.

The cam is a worthwhile mod, but in order to see all the gains it is capable of producing you will have to: leave as hard as possible, run more gear, and probably step up to the ls6 intake.

This is why i say just spray a 150 shot on that ****! The gas = big mph, abiding that lucky #7 doesnt get too inefficient on you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

But, as regards your specific cam questions: yes the 224 will be good with both stock and ported heads.
I picked up a solid 3+ tenths from a cam AND gear swap.
The street manners of the cam will be just fine. With closed up exhaust you will hardly know its there. I run a 226 single pattern cam with full lenghts, an offroad y-pipe, and fully closed borla and the cam doesnt hit hard at all. But, when I open the borla by all means is the cam noticable. The same will be the case with the 224. I dont think it will effect drivability at all.

Good Luck

<small>[ June 12, 2002, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Mike Hoffpauir ]</small>

98TAauto

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by fastlif:
<strong>98taauto:
how the hell are you running that fast? I have heads/cam etc and only run what you run stock internal..........??!@#$%^&*()

same gear/same convertor dam whats up?

what do you weigh?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hahaa im slow compared to half these converter guys on here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

i thought about running et streets and trying for 11.7-8's NA but i really dont think the rear will hold that. Im not a N20 fan, so i mainly like all motor. I hardly even have the bottle in car.

plus if i let that 150 rip then the tranny and rear would more than likely surely go buh bye <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Mike: im just trying to keep up with ya'lls freak cars <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

so many choices <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

<small>[ June 12, 2002, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: 98TAauto ]</small>

Mike Hoffpauir

Says who? I've ran mid 1.5's on my 3.42 rear end for over 8 months with no major problems to speak of. We are talking about a4's here, which luckily enough arent too hard on rear ends.

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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A 224/114 will work well for what you want. Considering that you've mentioned that you don't want to mess w/ surging, etc., I wouldn't go w/ the 230/224. It does hit pretty hard. I shaved off right at .4 in the 1/4 and gained 3 MPH with a cam and converter swap. The stock-internal time of 12.04 @ 111 MPH was with -500' D.A. vs. the time in my sig with the D.A. listed. If conditions were identical, I would've shaved off at least .5 with the cam and converter swap, and that's even holding raceweight constant! I actually weighed 10# less with stock internals compared to my 11.63 run, truth be told.

kent

98TAauto--Step up to the plate and get a cam. Just think of the new times you will get with the NITTO's and the 3600 vig---luckly number 7 do-dad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> Yes, I believe you will get at least 3 tenths on a new cam of your choice. For the money, the cam is a more cost effective way to gain power than heads---but I know you already know this. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> I believe you would be happy with the new power with a cut-off unless you already have one. My best time with H/C is 11.72 so far. But I believe this fall, the car may run in the 11.50 range. So far car has hardly no weight reduction, but this fall a few things will go to improve times. My car is average and just explaining it as an example to assist in your decision. But I would do it and watch them times come down. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

so stop wasting time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> and you know that you need to shop around for best price <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> .....and cam <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Cheers

98TAauto

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trever: thanks for the advice!

Kent: I would be very happy with consistent 11.6's, but i know if i slapped on the ET streets and hoped maybe i could break the 11.5's or better...

i still have alot left in the stall, but i want the cam so bascially i can make more power uptop <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> my mph sucks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

plus im at 3450 race weight, 3600+ with everything in car so its a PIG!

Mike Hoffpauir

Dont worry about the rear end. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I am about to sell my 26X8.5 et drags if you are interested. They are the perfect tire for a stock internal car in my opinion.

98TAauto

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mike Hoffpauir:
<strong>Dont worry about the rear end. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I am about to sell my 26X8.5 et drags if you are interested. They are the perfect tire for a stock internal car in my opinion.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">cough cough <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> its either gonna go or blow <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

11SECSS

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Glad I have an 01 right now I'm runnin 11.7's with just the back seat out on these NITTO"S
over 250 passes on the stock rearend . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

98TAauto

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 11SECSS:
<strong>Glad I have an 01 right now I'm runnin 11.7's with just the back seat out on these NITTO"S
over 250 passes on the stock rearend . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Joe, u just have a factory freak <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> if i could run your numbers i wouldnt even be looking for a cam... but imagine what you could do with a TR224 or similair cam <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

possible 10's cam only?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />