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Old 07-21-2002, 07:32 PM
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Default Hoosiers SUCK!

Yes they do. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Let me explain. I do not know how I won last night. Lucky I guess. <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />

I ran these damn things from 20 lbs to 7 lbs. 1.6's to 2.08. Yes, I made Hal adjustments, we checked the video of every run. It just plain and simplely spun it's *** off no matter what tire pressure we ran.(I had 6 to 12 very good Bracket and Stock Elim racers watching my Hot Rod on every run) That really sucked. It cost me alot of money today. Iam very pissed! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Here is the deal on the Hoosier tire. They do not make a 6 speed tire in a 28x10x15. They only make a D05 compound for A4 Hot Rods. You need a D07 compound for a 6 speed. All you Boys that have 6 speeds and the Hoosier tire go ahead and run them, Me and my Goodyear slicks will beat your *** on Nov.2 <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

So my bran new Hoosier slicks (28x10x15)are for sale. $250.00 takes them.(They are already off the rims and everything).

So, you say how does he know this? Well 4 of the best stock Elim guys in the country were watching my Hot Rod run all day. Two of them are in the top 10 in NHRA Stock Elim Natinal Championship points and are frickin Hoosier dealers. They both told me to call Carter Maxwell(Oklahoma City) in the morning and order some Goodyear 28x10x15 slicks! <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />

This really Sucks! I got a great deal on the Hoosiers but they SUCK on a 6 speed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

I am a good racer and I was all over the tree and the 60 fts were terrible. We ran one 7.29 to a 7.4 frickin 7. I normally run 7 teens to 7.20's and 1.53 60fts to 1.58 60fts. Today my 60 fts were 1.60 to 2.08! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Goodyears will be order in the morning. We have a double track points race next Sunday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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that sux coach...I had great luck my first outting on hoosier 28x10x15s.

3 back to back 1.69s which was really limited by my flexing torque arm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> which broke on the 3rd run and the fact I was bogging a tad since I didn't have a chance to dial them in

that was at 14 psi HOT

did you prep the tires prior to mounting the first time? (see my post in your other thread)
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Fire Ball,

Yes, I did treat the slicks. I always do that on a new pair of slicks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

They just SUCK on my Hot Rod! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

I cut 1.53's to 1.55's new to 1.55 to 1.58's after 85 runs on the Goodyears. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

They are for sale(Hoosiers) and Goodyears our being ordered in the morning! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

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Coach, have you considered Mickey Thompson ET Drags, I know they're not a favorite on this board but I was cutting 1.62 60's on 26x10x15 Et Drags.
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I just got my 27x11.5x15 QTP's, I hope they hook well for me.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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SpeedDemonZ28,

Yes Sir, I did ask about M/T tires the Heavy hitter Stock Elim guys said in a M6 Hot Rod you have to have the Goodyears.(Remember, the M6 shcoks the tires so hard when dumping the clutch at 6,500 rpms). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

In my Hot Rod the Goodyears were killing them! <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> The Hoosiers SUCK! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Great for a A4 Hot Rod. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Remember the Hoosiers are for sale. My lost is your gain. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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wow..that really suprises me. My first pass on my hoosiers they hooked hard enough to snap my output shaft at a 4500 dump off the two step. I was in the 1.5s spinning on 28x9x15 et drags and these seem to hook much harder. I will find out here soon and will report the details. For my sake I'm hopeing the track you were on just sucked. well..good luck with the goodyears

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Coach, What size Goodyears are you gonna run? These are what I plan on getting.
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I run on "little" 26x10x15 Hoosier slicks and I have no problems cutting 1.48-1.52 60' times in my 3600 lb 6-speed.

Of course, I only need to dump this stroker at 4500 rpm with my 4.10 gears to do so <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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Guys,

4 weeks ago I was cutting 1.53 60fts and last weekend at the same track I was cutting 1.56 to 1.58 6ofts.(Goodyears 28x10x15) Yesterday I was cutting 1.58's to 2.08 and she was spinning her *** off every run no matter what tire pressure or Hal adjustment I used. I do have video of every run. The Hoosiers suck on my M6 Hot Rod. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Some of you maybe able to get away with Hoosiers when you are dumping the clutch at 4,500 rpm insted of 6,500rpms. Yes, I even tried to launch at 5,000 rpms and it still did not work. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

I just wanted to let everyone know about my experience with them. With all the help that I had watching the Hot Rod run, the consensus is go back to the Goodyears. Hell, I race more than most of you guys and I can't win if the Hot Rod is spinning it *** off. Iam at the track every weekend and I do win on a regular basis. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

The Goodyears are 28x10x15 are ordered. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Damn Coach that really sucks, I personally cant believe they didnt work. Tony's car is making quite a bit more horsepower and torque at 4500 than your car is at 6500 with a heavier car and smaller tires and pulls high 1.4x and low 1.5x's

I believe the Colonel is running hoosiers and pulls 1.3x's leaving on the brake in his car. I know of a lot of other guys cutting awesome 60's with hoosiers.

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Yep, Colonel uses Hoosiers to cut 1.3X times also. He is the original one that got me off of my Mickey's and onto Hoosiers. The Hoosiers feel MUCH more stable past the 1/8 mile than the Mickey's do.

How much do Goodyears cost? Just curious <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Yep, Colonel uses Hoosiers to cut 1.3X times also. He is the original one that got me off of my Mickey's and onto Hoosiers. The Hoosiers feel MUCH more stable past the 1/8 mile than the Mickey's do.

How much do Goodyears cost? Just curious <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I believe the Goodyears are about 40 bucks more per tire than the hoosiers. Are you having problems hooking with that new monster? high 1.4's dont sound to bad to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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maybe the track prep was just bad that day .. Don't be so quick to blame the tires .. <img border="0" alt="[whiner]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" />
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Ok Guys,

Here is the deal. The track prep was pretty good. Everyone was running what they normally do. Iam the only stick car that bracket races. All the other Hot Rods are autos. My Hot Rod pulls the front wheels a foot to a foot an a half off the ground on every launch. This past weekend nothing. I have video of every run. Hell the starting line guys were even telling me to put Goodyears back on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

Hoosiers may work for you guys but for me and the Thunder Racing Hot Rod. It is Goodyears from now on. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

The cost for Goodyears is $191.00 per tire. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Track prep was pretty good. Yes, I do blame the Hoosiers! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

PS. I have 134 passes on my Hot Rod since the 1st of June. How many do you guys have?

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Damn Coach, I hate to hear that they weren't working for ya. I think the s/e guys have some great experience, so I'd go off of their recommendation. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> It sounds like you worked through your problems anyways since ya said you won. Let us know how the Goodyears do this next weekend. <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" />
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Coach, You have run your car wide open for about 331/2 miles... You have done very good <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
AWESOME!!!

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That sux Coach, so you are saying the Goodyears have the softest tread out of the Hoosier Slicks and MT ET Drags? I might have to get me a set of Goodyears! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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Justin,

The softest compound tire is the Hoosier. It is to soft for a M6 launching at 6500 rpms. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Goodyears work best on my Hot Rod. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

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I'm also hooking on puny 8" wide Draglites. I literally have 1.5" on each half of the tire that doesn't contact the ground (you can see where it isn't wearing like the center). So, basically I'm on 7" slicks LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

I'm picking up a set of 10" wide wheels so that I can use the WHOLE slick width <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

I'd bet that it has more to do with my car's heavier weight that helps it hook well.

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