Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch?
10-10-2002, 07:09 PM
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Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? My best is a 1.99. I think I should be able to get a 1.90.
What are your guys best, and how did you launch it?
What are your guys best, and how did you launch it?
10-10-2002, 07:13 PM
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? High 1.8's here. That is with the old crappy stock clutch. I was holding at 3500....let clutch out right to where it starts to catch. On the 2nd yellow I slip it the rest of the way out. Not really riding it but definatly not a dump. Practice is the key. I'm sure you could cut low 1.8's with enough track time and practice.
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? 1.849 w/Nitto's, 3.42's in a stock 10-bolt, stock 2001 clutch...12.039 @ 115.8 (N/A, stock-internal 6-speed).
Oh yeah, that was with a 3500-lb. raceweight, which for me is full interior and EVERYTHING in the car, including half a tank of gas, but with no front swaybar.
Launched by stalling to 4500 RPM's and NEARLY doing a complete dump. Nitto's were very new, and they tend to hook better when they're brand new. Couldn't slip the clutch too much, or my clutch would fry.
<small>[ October 10, 2002, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]</small>
Oh yeah, that was with a 3500-lb. raceweight, which for me is full interior and EVERYTHING in the car, including half a tank of gas, but with no front swaybar.
Launched by stalling to 4500 RPM's and NEARLY doing a complete dump. Nitto's were very new, and they tend to hook better when they're brand new. Couldn't slip the clutch too much, or my clutch would fry.
<small>[ October 10, 2002, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]</small>
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? Friend of mine went a 1.62 60ft with 315's and a centerforce clutch car was a 2000 SS M6 <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? Since we're not sticking to the restrictions, I wanna say the Colonel cut a 1.5X on Nittos a long time ago. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? Rageman, I was looking at your sig and I just have to know how you got that car to run 120+ thru the traps? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> The DA must have been like -4000 ft. What do you normally go thru the traps at?
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? Larry01Z28 was cutting 1.82 or 1.84's on nittos and running 12.0's@116.9 stock internally/NA
its all in the burnout... heat them good and roast them to the tree to keep them hot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
i cut 1.58-1.64's consistently, but I have a A4 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
its all in the burnout... heat them good and roast them to the tree to keep them hot <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
i cut 1.58-1.64's consistently, but I have a A4 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
10-11-2002, 10:28 AM
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LEO:
<strong>Rageman, I was looking at your sig and I just have to know how you got that car to run 120+ thru the traps? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> The DA must have been like -4000 ft. What do you normally go thru the traps at?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">3200-lb. raceweight and some good air. DA was around -1400, I wanna say. I can't recall for sure.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 98TAauto:
<strong>Larry01Z28 was cutting 1.82 or 1.84's on nittos and running 12.0's@116.9 stock internally/NA</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, was that with 3.42's? What raceweight? If it hadn't been so freakin' humid at Ennis that day, I might could have trapped that high. That is a great time for Larry01Z28. We need more competent 6-speed drivers around!!! Where is Larry from?
<strong>Rageman, I was looking at your sig and I just have to know how you got that car to run 120+ thru the traps? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> The DA must have been like -4000 ft. What do you normally go thru the traps at?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">3200-lb. raceweight and some good air. DA was around -1400, I wanna say. I can't recall for sure.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 98TAauto:
<strong>Larry01Z28 was cutting 1.82 or 1.84's on nittos and running 12.0's@116.9 stock internally/NA</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, was that with 3.42's? What raceweight? If it hadn't been so freakin' humid at Ennis that day, I might could have trapped that high. That is a great time for Larry01Z28. We need more competent 6-speed drivers around!!! Where is Larry from?
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? I have cut a few 1.95-1.97 on RS-As. PRACTICE is the key! But I run the same on my DRS, fear of doing burnouts on the POS factory clutch <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
10-11-2002, 02:49 PM
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by qwik3r:
<strong>And how did you achieve this? Completely stock?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong>1.849 w/Nitto's, 3.42's in a stock 10-bolt, stock 2001 clutch...12.039 @ 115.8 (N/A, stock-internal 6-speed).
Oh yeah, that was with a 3500-lb. raceweight, which for me is full interior and EVERYTHING in the car, including half a tank of gas, but with no front swaybar.
Launched by stalling to 4500 RPM's and NEARLY doing a complete dump. Nitto's were very new, and they tend to hook better when they're brand new. Couldn't slip the clutch too much, or my clutch would fry.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dude, no. Not completely stock. At the time, I had Grotyohann longtubes, off-road Y-pipe, Borla catback (wide-open), lid, MAF, FTRA, ported TB, TB bypass, and a Pro 5.0 shifter. That's all that comes to mind right now, but for sure it was a naturally-aspirated stock internal motor with a stock clutch and stock 3.42 rear.
[EDIT: Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure I had an MTI underdrive pulley by then, too.]
<small>[ October 11, 2002, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]</small>
<strong>And how did you achieve this? Completely stock?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong>1.849 w/Nitto's, 3.42's in a stock 10-bolt, stock 2001 clutch...12.039 @ 115.8 (N/A, stock-internal 6-speed).
Oh yeah, that was with a 3500-lb. raceweight, which for me is full interior and EVERYTHING in the car, including half a tank of gas, but with no front swaybar.
Launched by stalling to 4500 RPM's and NEARLY doing a complete dump. Nitto's were very new, and they tend to hook better when they're brand new. Couldn't slip the clutch too much, or my clutch would fry.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dude, no. Not completely stock. At the time, I had Grotyohann longtubes, off-road Y-pipe, Borla catback (wide-open), lid, MAF, FTRA, ported TB, TB bypass, and a Pro 5.0 shifter. That's all that comes to mind right now, but for sure it was a naturally-aspirated stock internal motor with a stock clutch and stock 3.42 rear.
[EDIT: Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure I had an MTI underdrive pulley by then, too.]
<small>[ October 11, 2002, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]</small>
10-11-2002, 06:05 PM
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? I made several 1.83s and 1.84s in the SS on 275/40/17 Nittos. It was a hybrid slip/dump method from 5500 RPM I was useing. Only the spare and jack were removed but a bad *** stereo system (read: HEAVY!) took it's place. Mods were B&B Tri-flow exhaust, !cats, C/F driveshaft, FTRA, K&N, airlid, decreened MAF and...well, that's it. I think with more practice I coulda pulled 1.7s for sure. I ran a best of 8.10 in the 1/8th that day (this was late spring.)
And yes, I used to pull 1.51s on Nittos with the Z28 but that's beyond the scope of this discussion. I feel I could pull mid 1.4s on Nittos now. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
And yes, I used to pull 1.51s on Nittos with the Z28 but that's beyond the scope of this discussion. I feel I could pull mid 1.4s on Nittos now. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> Colonels car kicks ***! Some day baby, someday. <img border="0" alt="[Camaro]" title="" src="graemlins/camaro.gif" />
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? Rage: Im sending larry the link to the post now. Im surprised he hasnt found it already <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
but he's a va boy <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> Ill let him answer the other questions
but he's a va boy <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> Ill let him answer the other questions
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? And how did you achieve this? Completely stock?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong>1.849 w/Nitto's, 3.42's in a stock 10-bolt, stock 2001 clutch...12.039 @ 115.8 (N/A, stock-internal 6-speed).
Oh yeah, that was with a 3500-lb. raceweight, which for me is full interior and EVERYTHING in the car, including half a tank of gas, but with no front swaybar.
Launched by stalling to 4500 RPM's and NEARLY doing a complete dump. Nitto's were very new, and they tend to hook better when they're brand new. Couldn't slip the clutch too much, or my clutch would fry.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RAGEman:
<strong>1.849 w/Nitto's, 3.42's in a stock 10-bolt, stock 2001 clutch...12.039 @ 115.8 (N/A, stock-internal 6-speed).
Oh yeah, that was with a 3500-lb. raceweight, which for me is full interior and EVERYTHING in the car, including half a tank of gas, but with no front swaybar.
Launched by stalling to 4500 RPM's and NEARLY doing a complete dump. Nitto's were very new, and they tend to hook better when they're brand new. Couldn't slip the clutch too much, or my clutch would fry.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
10-13-2002, 06:09 PM
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? I pulled a 1.90 today with a 4K slip-dump. Felt like the clutch may be starting to slip a little bit. Run was 12.43 @ 115.85mph into a 15mph headwind. <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? I run a 1.79 and regularly see 1.80's on 16 inch nittos with a Centerforce d/f clutch . This is at No Problem raceway where the Thunder southern shootout is gonna be <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? I don't know how you guys are launching at 4000 or even 5500. I just bought a set of salad shooters with BFG's on them and I had to luanch at 2500 rpm. and I was still spinning. My 60 ft. was 2.10. That is freaking horrible. But I did cut a 1.93 on my 275/40/17 Nitto's. I think i just need a lot more practice.
10-14-2002, 01:46 PM
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Re: Best M6 60' with nittos, 3.42 and ZO6 clutch? "I don't know how you guys are launching at 4000 or even 5500."
By not side stepping the clutch. Ok, so I have the Rs at 5500, I start letting the clutch out and my right foot hits the floor at the same time. I modulate the clutch so that I pull the Rs back down to about 4000-3500 but not below (or it'll bog.) I use the clutch to keep the Rs in this range reaching full clutch engagement before the Rs climb above this. I know this sounds like hell on the clutch but you have to realize that this is happening very quickly. As I said in my other posts it's kinda a hybrid dump/ride the clutch style launch. Call it a soft touch dump.
By not side stepping the clutch. Ok, so I have the Rs at 5500, I start letting the clutch out and my right foot hits the floor at the same time. I modulate the clutch so that I pull the Rs back down to about 4000-3500 but not below (or it'll bog.) I use the clutch to keep the Rs in this range reaching full clutch engagement before the Rs climb above this. I know this sounds like hell on the clutch but you have to realize that this is happening very quickly. As I said in my other posts it's kinda a hybrid dump/ride the clutch style launch. Call it a soft touch dump.