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Old 12-12-2002, 01:50 AM
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Default What would a Lightning run without a s/c?

its just a simple thought that came to mind.. what would a lightning run if it was able to run all motor?
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i dont know, ive always been curious to see what a 4.6L ls1 would run......or a 5.4........ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

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My L' went into boost-bypass once (happens when you over rev the blower)...and ran a 15.40 @ 94 mph. I thought I was gonna die of old age before I hit the traps. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Nowhere <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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WONDERED THAT MYSELF <img border="0" alt="[Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/corvette.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ebbsnflows:
<strong>My L' went into boost-bypass once (happens when you over rev the blower)...and ran a 15.40 @ 94 mph. I thought I was gonna die of old age before I hit the traps. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Really doesn't seem that bad considering.
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Actually...

A buddy of mine's dad has a 99 Lightning. Due to some agressive chip tuning and a lil nitrous, it exited a rod through the side of the block. Warranty, bwahahaha. $6000 for a new Lightning motor... or $8000 for a 514ci BBF crate motor ?

Well without the supercharger, and with a 1050 Dominator it sure sounds nice <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

No runs yet and I don't like to predict, but it made 618hp at the flywheel. There's a Nitrous plate in the near future.

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Default Re: What would a Lightning run without a s/c?

pretty cool but doesnt that ddeefeat the purpose of the lightning? why not put that motor in an older truck and save the 30k on the lightning
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Notice the part about "exited a rod through the side of the (stock) block".

If everyone thought like that, no one would have 9sec LS1s.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Matt Sterbator:
<strong>Notice the part about "exited a rod through the side of the (stock) block".

If everyone thought like that, no one would have 9sec LS1s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ain't that the truth... Ya would almost wanna work with whatcha got sometimes! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

That's a fairly mild 514, no? I hope he doesn't plan on any racing with that little airfilter on there. And what's with that old school distributor? Problem getting something newer? And finally, why would the L2 5.4L be so expensive to replace? I can only think he priced seriously upgraded parts, or that included the s/c.

BTW folks, I took the 99 F-250 out and ran 16.60's@80+mph one night (3 passes). It's factory stock and weighs 5700 lbs. and is powered by a 5.4L Triton V8 w/ the 4 speed automatic. Not bad, for a sled. Much heavier than a Lightning, but it gives an idea for comparison. I wonder what the 5.4L F-150's run??
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Obviously he coulda fixed the 5.4L for less money. However, the price of a new block, with machining wasn't cheap. He didn't want to put in a new piston and rod with the old parts. New rods, pistons... He just said screw it. Plus he's got one badass truck, badder than any 5.4L <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

What other distibutor could he have used ? Heh, I mean it IS carbuerated now, lol. That air filter is all that would fit, and even it required some uh, "clearancing" with a BFH. The open element K&N on there flows alot better than most closed top air filters.

Now if we can only get him to take it to the track... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
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Default Re: What would a Lightning run without a s/c?

I know a kid with an older lightning before they had blowers and his runs 14.7 or something like that. So its a boat anchor.
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Kinda like the old 454 SS <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sited12:
<strong>I know a kid with an older lightning before they had blowers and his runs 14.7 or something like that. So its a boat anchor.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If it ran 14.7, it has a few mods. Anyway, that's an entirely different animal to work with than the 5.4L of today. I happen to know the owner of the "World's Fastest Lightning" and he's agreat guy and that truck is SICK! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> It ran 7's with a single turbo and now, it's got twins... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Matt Sterbator:
<strong> What other distibutor could he have used ? Heh, I mean it IS carbuerated now, lol. That air filter is all that would fit, and even it required some uh, "clearancing" with a BFH. The open element K&N on there flows alot better than most closed top air filters.

Now if we can only get him to take it to the track... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I just expected to see a Pro Billet model(8577), I suppose, from MSD. I'm sure that one works though. A larger filter wouldn't fit? Ewww bummer... I'd remove it for racing then. I think that one's too small for the carb. I have the open lid and a 14" round filter on my car and no lack of, issues! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I think that 1050 would suffer though, even with the "lid" as a clear advantage.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by It'llrun:
<strong> .... I happen to know the owner of the "World's Fastest Lightning" and he's agreat guy and that truck is SICK! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> It ran 7's with a single turbo and now, it's got twins... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If your talking about Jason Brown's truck... It's fast.. but barely anything to call it a Lightning anymore. Chopped channeled and shorten the last time I saw it... in fact it was For Sale...
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Next time at the track i will have to drop the trailer and see what my f150 will do <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Besides bore the crowd with its slow times lol.
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Default Re: What would a Lightning run without a s/c?

way to step back 30 years ago. did you replace all the brakes with drums also?
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Default Re: What would a Lightning run without a s/c?

My 2000 lightning went 9.13 at 78 mph bone stock in the 1/8th mile. My buddy had a 2000 swb 2wd F150 5.4 at the same time (with A-4 and 3.55's just like the L) and went 9.91 at about 71 mph.
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About 2.5 seconds slower.




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