Brichdp06

Hey guys in the market for 98-02 camaro or maybe a cobra but they are a little to expensive for me. What are yalls race results against Cobra's? Of course stock and stock the cobra will take the Ls1 but with H/C how would we match up to the cobra?

pdanrichey

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My brother is looking at an 03 or 04 Cobra right now. I went with him the other day to test drive one...honestly, I could not tell a difference between it and my Camaro SS. Even he was like..."it's not as fast as I would have hoped." DOHC verses Push Rods??...I don't know. You can pick up an LS1...stay 2000 or up though (actually faster than the 98's or 99's) for about $12000 for a nice one. Put $3k into in for H/C/Intake/LT's with ORY and you're running in the low 12's on street tires at about 420 rwhp. Basically, I, as well as my brother was unimpressed with a 390 hp Cobra vs. my 345 hp SS. His words exactly "I thought 390 hp would have been much faster. Your car feels faster to me than this."

blackfang

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The 00's are not faster than the 98-99's You are thinking of the 01-02's with the LS6 intake and different cam. Plus a few minor things.

As for power..the 03/04's will make 450+rwhp for 1k in mods and thats it. Hell many start at 370-390rwhp stock on average.

pdanrichey

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2000's and up had better manifolds...technically they have more HP.

UL LOSE

get a ls1 do gears,stall,h/c,normal bolt ons. Youll be in the mid 11s easy. Youll spend a lot less $$$ doing it this way. Cobra can easily be modded to run low 11s too but the cost of buying the car might break you. my 0.2

blackfang

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No the 2000 had the same LS1 intake manifold as the 98-99's The 2001/2002 had the LS6 manifold along with the new cam from the vortec truck series

black_knight

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So you're asking if a $12,000 F-body with $20,000 of mods would be faster than a $32,000 stock Cobra Terminator?

Um... yes.

98SuperSport

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im not sure about 2000, i thought it was only 2001/2002 but they had somewhat different exhaust manifolds as well, right??

98SuperSport

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oh yeah LS1 all the way

DMH Fabrication

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buy my brothers car. save 20,000 and its decently built already
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMESE%3AIT

blackfang

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I dont know about exhaust manifolds. I havent heard of that one. I know the 2001+ has the LS6 intake manifold because there isnt an EGR on top like the 98-00 has. I believe the EGR is internal or doesnt run one.

I know for a fact the 98-00 has the LS1 intake and the 01-02 has the LS6 intake. Those who state otherwise are wrong.

pdanrichey

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Not to beat this one into the ground or anything, but I was told that putting shorty headers on the 98-99 would give you power...not much but a little. By replacing the manifolds on the 00-02, you gain basically nothing...better flowing manifolds allowed for more power from 2000 and up. Does this really matter though? I may very well be wrong and my apologies if I am.
The answer to this guy's question is LS1 any day of the week! Screw "literally with the roots blower" the 4.6 crapstang.

Josh@KY-Turbo

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i can speak from experience. i just sold my 03 Cobra. it had 500rwhp and i drove it everday and got 18mpg. you cant beat the ride, the easy 500rwhp with minimal mods (mine still had the factory mainfolds), or the engineering poured into a factory blown, IRS, and well refined sprts car. like i said above, i sold it. i went and bought Nineball's old 1LE Z28 and an 01 Z71 to pull it with. i had a LS1 TA and Z28 and just like the F-Body platform better. i have a 370 cube forced induction motor in the works. when done it would hand my 03 Cobra its A$$, and cost less money to boot. its all in what you want.

blackfang

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I have told you 3 times now that the 98-00 have the LS1 intake manifold!

The 2001's+ have the LS6 intake in which yes does make a difference as the 01's+ generally dyno higher.

Your info is 100% wrong period. You take any 01 and 02 LS6 intake that comes stock on a 2001+ LS1 and put that on any 98-00 car that has a LS1 intake, you will make more power. Why on earth you think people are doing this????

they stopped making the "old" LS1 intakes in 2000. ALL LS1/6 motors built in and after 2001 came with a LS6 intake. Corvette and F-body. From This old thread.. https://ls1tech.com/forums/printthre...5&page=2&pp=10

black_knight

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As much as you are completely correct, you are misunderstanding what he said. He was talking about the EXHAUST manifolds, not the INTAKE manifold.

So no need to be upset.

redaddiction

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I use to have an 03 they are good bolt on cars but past that I'd take an ls1 anyday of the week.

blackfang

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I was the one who brought up the intake manifold and he never clarified himself since. he kept informing me I was wrong...lol

BawlsZ28

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buy an LS1, put $10k into the car and you will have enough power to make you pray every night for safety!!

pdanrichey

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My apologies on the clarification issues. I did mean the EXHAUST MANIFOLD...not the intake manifold.

brad8266

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If you can get a good deal on a cobra, I would consider it, although I would not buy one. My friend has a 99 cobra with a 03 motor dropped in it. He got the 03 motor and trans for 6 grand, good deal. All he did to it was 3"pully, bassani headers, x pipe, and tailpipes, K&N filter, shifter, and tune. He then blew the IRS rear and went to a solid axle, he also has drag radials, he ran a 11.91 2 days ago. They are easy to mod, even though the IRS rear sucks. His sounds awesome too. I do like my car better though.