offaxis

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I see alot of guys claiming full weight but they have bogarts or welds on there cars. Some have no spare / jack / swaybar/ Back seat etc...
At what point do you think a car isnt full weight?

Is it a certain race weight ? like maby 3600 #`s , 3500 #`s or less?

I am just wondering.

SUX2BU

iTrader: (14)

Full weight is taking ABSULUTELY nothing out for weight savings. These guys that say "full weight" but have taken things out aren't even fooling anyone.
The car has to weigh at least 3450 without you in it. And if you add a roll bar or rear end that doesn't mean you can take out something welse to offset the weight.

11SECSS

iTrader: (199)

dont forget about gas in the tank how many people ride around with less than 1/8 tank of gas...full weight means 3500 min. with driver in my book

chpmnsws6

iTrader: (70)

full weight ='s you still have carpet, heat, and both front seats

SUX2BU

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so if i put a heater back in my car i can be "full weight"?
let see the heater should be aboput 10 lbs, so i would be a 2970lb "full weight" car!

chpmnsws6

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you have real carpet? not the light weight homemade stuff. REAL carpet

we were actually pointing out reasons why our cars were still street cars...... or race cars. sadly, i lost the street car race HAHA

offaxis

iTrader: (19)

I see guys right now who have pulled there a/c and hearter box still with some bigs and littles claiming full weight.

Im not trying to pick on anyone but I think some people think if there raceweight isnt 3000 #`s they are still full weight. I guess they want there times to look more impressive.

BLK02WS6

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Its an age old argument - just like what is considered a street car...

I never can understand these kind of arguments - what difference does it really make? To each their own. The way I see it my car makes me happy and that is all that matters. Call it "not full weight", call it a "race car", call it anything you want - in the end, it is what it is and I like it. A pretty fast car that I can still drive on the street when I want to and it isn't all gutted out inside.

Just my 2 cents...

offaxis

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I wouldnt concider my car full weight at all either ( or fast for that matter ) . I was just wondering what other peoples idea of full weight would be.

LiquidFire350

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to me, full weight is stock interior, i dont care about the spare tire or A/C(didnt 98 1LE's come w/o AC, so would that make them not full weight from the factory?)

but if you wanted to get technical, would aftermarket k-members and such that are lighter make a car not full weight?

BLK02WS6

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To put a number on it, I would say anything 3500# or up is heavy enough to be considered full weight. But that is just my opinion. Mine is 3600#, and I can tell you it ain't easy gettin all that weight down the track in a hurry!

I'm probably gonna look to get rid of some more weight somewhere to make up for the cage upgrade I gotta do. But I won't take anything out that makes it look bad or gutted. I'll probably end up spending a bunch of money to get it off with a k-member and a-arms. At least my existing rollbar and the cage conversion are chromoly, so they don't add as much as mild steel.

chpmnsws6

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man, i don't think it could be put any better you get a for that!

GIZMO

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This is a tough subject. My 1995 Formula came factory AC delete. It has no other options. I wish that I had weighed it before I started modifying it.

I removed the back seat and installed a mild steel rollbar. The six speed was replaced with a TH-350. I removed the heater and changed the factory computer to Accell DFI. The factory exhaust was changed for headers with turbo mufflers. The wheels and tires were changed for Convo Pros and Hoosiers. I added sub frame connectors and lift bars. The battery was moved to the trunk. With a full tank of gas and me in the drivers seat it weighed approx. 3300 lbs. I can't see that I made any major reduction in weight, because I put so much metal back in the car.

My point is that this car was a factory light weight, no power anything, no rear floor mats, no trim, etc. There is no way that it would have weighed 3500 lbs even with the LT1.

That's why I think that it's better to race in specific classes where the cars are held to particular rules. That way you have a true idea of how your car compares to others.

Daren

SUX2BU

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It pisses me off cause SOOOOO many people are quick to call my car "gutted out", "tin can", "race car" and **** like that without even seeing my car. When all i'm doing is trying to make it faster by making it lighter. Its no different than adding hp. I do keep the visuals nice though. all factory body panels and glass, two nice looking race seats, decent lookin carpet, all interior panels (minus the center console, the B&M Pro ratchet brushed aluminum cover looks trick as hell). I dailt drive it 90+ miles a day and it just pisses me off fore someone to call it something its not just cause its light. Then those same guys turn around and call their cars "full weight" and they are no where near close to factory weight. or they lie about their weight to make it seem like their cars are faster than they are.
Rant off.

DopeFedZ

iTrader: (34)

I hated when people would bitch out of a race because they were up against a "tin can", "gutted racecar", etc... you have the option of doing the same to your car so that argument is whack. Why would I want my car weighing 3500lbs when I can have it at 2850lbs? Light car big motor sounds like a serious case of whoop ***.

RGR Pete

Full weight to me is as it rolled off the Dealers lot. The funny thing is they ratted my spare and jack and luckly I inspected the car when it came home. The bad thing is on a WS-6 is that it came with everything(01-02)

cablebandit

iTrader: (37)

3500+ sounds good to me. To each his own though. Everyone has different ideas about weight..streetable etc. On top of that....lots lie anyway...about times...power...weight ....mods..etc Mine is what it is...if it's slow for the combo, it's because thats all I can afford or all I know how to do....I can live with that

EDS01SS

iTrader: (30)

Full weight is exactly what it says FULL meaning nothing removed from the car.

glennster

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Depends on the car,I have !spare/jack and convo-pros but the BMR suspension/12 bolt/steel driveshaft/SFC/DR Loop probably make up the difference.I concider mine "stock weight"

Pro Stock John

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Most full weight 98-02 4th gen f-bods were 3400-3500 with some gas. Full weight for me is 3600-3700.

My formula was 3400 ish, 3600 with driver. I'm now at 3400 with driver, but that's with a 10 pt, 9", and a custom blower setup. Won't change much when I go turbo.