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Old 12-04-2008, 12:22 PM
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Got it dyno'd last week and wanted to post the results. I think its pretty dam good for just straightening out the A/F and not messing with the timing at all. It made 425 rwhp 382 rwtq. My friend said its a little on the low side for a full bolt on MS3. I dont because she pulls like a dam bat out of hell on crack on the streets. What do you guys think?

Mods: MS3, SLP lid, SLP maf, NW 90/ Fast 90, LTs, ORY, GMMG and all the other little bolts-ons you can think of. T-56 stock clutch, Moser 12 bolt with 3.73 gears

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thats exactly what i dynoed last time... the best number i got from it was 430rwhp... i forgot the tq

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Thats very good, my buddy did 407rwhp with similar bolt on's ls6 intake.
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i kind of feel the tq should be more, maybe thats just how the came is set up but ive seen an G5x3 make 425hp and 410tq with same bolt ons as you.
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DAM 30 more rwtq with the G5X3?

You guys think that if we start playing with the timing i can squeeze some more out of her? or should i just play it safe like this and get a dead perfect tune when i put my heads in?
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Those are good numbers actually. They most definitely are NOT on the low side for a full bolt-on MS3 car.
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Nice numbers bro!! I didn't think you can get that much out of cam only car with some bolt ons. I would play it safe and get it dead on when you get the heads IMO.
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A lot of people have heads/cam with those numbers... I'd be happy.
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Nice numbers, looks good to me.
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Numbers look good to me. Especially through a 12 bolt with 3.73's.
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Great numbers! Definitely not low in any way for the setup.

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i kind of feel the tq should be more, maybe thats just how the came is set up but ive seen an G5x3 make 425hp and 410tq with same bolt ons as you.
Do you have a graph? I've never seen a cam only LS1 make that kind of torque. Makes me interested in that cam if it really is capable of those numbers.
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Thanks guys. Yeah i was pretty happy until my friend told me that he thought that they were pretty low. Cant wait until i get those heads on and do some porting on that fast 90.
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No way those numbers are very good that tq is normal for a ms3 car. my buddies was 380 something. Thats around the average for ms3 cars i have seen on here. That ms3 is a workhorse.
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I only put down 409hp/367tq with mods listed below havent dtnoes with the new mods but should be pretty good. Especially on the spray. I should be getting a re-tune soon so we'll see. Defintely nice numbers man.
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your friend must be jealous or just stupid, those numbers are NOT low. My friend with the MS3 put down 413 and like 37something tq with that cam, LS6 intake and a few bolt ons through a cutout. That Fast helps a lot too. Get some HEADS!
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My friend was one of people that help me build the car. That dude knows everything about these cars, which is why he thought they were low because he expected more.
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Are those numbers with PRC heads ? Or were those cam only?
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Numbers look good!!! When you put the heads on should crack 450 easy.
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You guys think with heads and some port work on the intake it can be 480+?
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Ported heads and intake prob 465-470. You could always put in a light clutch and flywheel that will get a few extra hp.
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yup with heads all mods below. since then i got a catback, cutout, underdrive pulley, 85mm lid/maff.



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