Who can read these graphs ?
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Who can read these graphs ?
Hi , Who can read these graphs and tell me the issues
My questions above the Graphs
NOTE : Two different tuners tuned the car , Last two Graphs the other tuner
*Is this correct Air Fuel ?
*I don't see any problems with this graph and the curve is good
*Is this correct Air Fuel ?
*Why the curve is going down ?
*Is this correct Air Fuel ?
*Here too Why the curve is going down ?
I talked with my builder and he said sounds like some lifters are bleeding down , I installed new Morel LSX link bar lifters and he said install the short travel lifters , Tuner said bad springs but i'm sure not the springs because all those runs was with same springs
I know the Air Fuel should be on 12 but it shows 13 on the first Graph
What you guys think , I waste alot of money for Dynos , mechanics and replacing parts and still dunno what's this problem , Dunno where to start
Thanks in advance
My questions above the Graphs
NOTE : Two different tuners tuned the car , Last two Graphs the other tuner
*Is this correct Air Fuel ?
*I don't see any problems with this graph and the curve is good
*Is this correct Air Fuel ?
*Why the curve is going down ?
*Is this correct Air Fuel ?
*Here too Why the curve is going down ?
I talked with my builder and he said sounds like some lifters are bleeding down , I installed new Morel LSX link bar lifters and he said install the short travel lifters , Tuner said bad springs but i'm sure not the springs because all those runs was with same springs
I know the Air Fuel should be on 12 but it shows 13 on the first Graph
What you guys think , I waste alot of money for Dynos , mechanics and replacing parts and still dunno what's this problem , Dunno where to start
Thanks in advance
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You need to post a graph with torque reading and rpm increments. The AFR is not the issue, even going from 12 AFR to 13.5 will not make a difference of 60 hp. How much rpm is 130 mph? Power always drops after peak... I tune peak torque to 12.5 afr and after that I taper up to 12.8 afr by peak hp for a naturally aspirated engine.
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You need to post a graph with torque reading and rpm increments. The AFR is not the issue, even going from 12 AFR to 13.5 will not make a difference of 60 hp. How much rpm is 130 mph? Power always drops after peak... I tune peak torque to 12.5 afr and after that I taper up to 12.8 afr by peak hp for a naturally aspirated engine.
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Firstly, what do you have?
Cubic inches, heads, cam, forced induction. Different things make power in different rpms. Peaking at 5800-6000 is not that abnormal. These will help people possibly see what is happening.
Also if it is NA vs FI will make a big difference where you want the AFR.
I may have missed that, but I could not find it even on your Facebook links.
Cubic inches, heads, cam, forced induction. Different things make power in different rpms. Peaking at 5800-6000 is not that abnormal. These will help people possibly see what is happening.
Also if it is NA vs FI will make a big difference where you want the AFR.
I may have missed that, but I could not find it even on your Facebook links.
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Thanks for ur replay
My setup is LSX 454 , CR 12:01 , LS7 Mast 305 heads , 661\661 112 , Springs up to 680lift , morel lifters , crower LS7 adjustable rockers , LS7 fast ported 105mm intake and 105 T\B , All was N\A runs , First graph was before I rebuild the engine because was smoking from breather and I changed with new morel link bar lifters and this happens , My builder said install comp short travel lifter
My setup is LSX 454 , CR 12:01 , LS7 Mast 305 heads , 661\661 112 , Springs up to 680lift , morel lifters , crower LS7 adjustable rockers , LS7 fast ported 105mm intake and 105 T\B , All was N\A runs , First graph was before I rebuild the engine because was smoking from breather and I changed with new morel link bar lifters and this happens , My builder said install comp short travel lifter
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I can tell you my 455 with 94 octane and 11.2:1 it seemed to like 12.8-12.9 AFR. When it went rich 12.4, it appeared it was loosing 20-30hp and when it went 13.05 it appeared to lose about 10-15hp. I have a smaller cam and heads than you but did not peak much higher than you are, it was at 6150 rpm.
Seeing your rpm and torque would help a lot.
If your tuner can send you the actual run file ( .drf), you can send it to me by email and I can change the parameters so we can see what it is actually happening. I have Winpep on two of my computers at home.
I will send you a PM with my email.
Seeing your rpm and torque would help a lot.
If your tuner can send you the actual run file ( .drf), you can send it to me by email and I can change the parameters so we can see what it is actually happening. I have Winpep on two of my computers at home.
I will send you a PM with my email.
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camshaft could do this also, have you degreed the cam ? is it installed on the correct Intake Lobe Centerline specs ?
from the graph it doesnt seem you have a valve float issue.
from the graph it doesnt seem you have a valve float issue.
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Sorry for delay , Yup the cam installed correctly , I throught it's valve float issue or springs running bad ! , We checked the springs with the springs tool and the pressure was good not weak , I also heared the adjustable rockers may fall at the high RPM if they weren't adjusted correctly but we adjusted the rockers many times and the same ?