CorbinLR

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So a few months back I finished the H/C/I build on my Trans Am and had it tuned by Jeff Creech and Carolina Automasters. Well, it turned out to be less than great to put it gently.

Without changing any mods I took it up to Steve Williams (Frost) in Richmond, VA and had him take a look. Like I figured, Steve said my tune was all jacked up. He wiped it clean and retuned my Trans Am.

With the Jeff Creech tune, the car made 411/417 (if you trust the dyno, which I don't) not to mention driveability blew. With Steve William's tune, the car made 433/409 and drives like stock! I couldn't believe it.

I drove 230 miles to see Steve and it was worth every minute of the 4 hours it took to get there. If you're in the neighborhood and looking to get a tune, do yourself a favor and go see Steve Williams!

The first graph is the Creech tune and the second is the Frost tune (you be the judge!)

Mods are:
FTP lid
NW 90 TB
FAST 90
42# Injectors
AFR 205's
EPS 226/230 .598"/.600" 113 LSA +4 advance
Rossler T3 trans w/ Yank SS3600
1 3/4 Kooks LTs
Kooks ORY
GMMG catback
10 bolt

A link to the video of the dyno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEiHSdOr1CQ

andrewss

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Nice build.You have alot of good parts that really paid off.Looks like a good tuner is worth the drive, time and effort. Are you going to take it to the track?

Z28Z06

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Congrats on the good numbers. Richmond is only 2 hours from me, I might give Frost a try.

CorbinLR

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Yes, I'll take it to the track. Hopin' for low 11's!
Definitely go see Frost, he knows his stuff and the people there are great. Nice clean shop and there's always some cool cars being worked on there.

Slowhawk

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Can't compare dyno graphs since the creech one is unlocked converter but as you found out, there is alot more to tuning than a dyno sheet.

CorbinLR

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I mainly just meant everyone to compare the air fuel ratio and the smoothness of the curves. Not the numbers.

CorbinLR

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Any more opinions?

Johnnystock

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Gaining 22hp from just a tune is incredible IMO Very nice numbers!!

CorbinLR

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Thanks, it's so much better to drive now with the right tune.

Latch

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Good stuff. Steve knows what he's doing. Gorgeous car, BTW.

CorbinLR

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Thanks, and yes he does.

Slowhawk

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The A/F does that because of the unlocked converter. What I was saying getting it tuned by Frost is not just about #'s but how the car actually drives/feels. Thats what makes him a very good tuner.

karpetcm

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Ive had Steve tune my car and cant complain at all. He knows what he's doing and for a mail order the guy who dynoed my car said my a/f was spot on.

BIGDRAGON

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I'm really thinking about mail tuning from him.

2QUIK4U

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Congrats. Steve has tuned my last 4 LS cars and the drivability is always great. It is well worth the drive. Several of my friends with G8's come down from Maryland and NOVA to have Steve tune their cars. The longer the drive the more you get to enjoy the car on the way back!

WKMCD

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My opinion is you're very lucky the car didn't blow up or catch fire driving up to see a real tuner after creech "tuned" your car.

I'm sure the car is not only quicker but much more enjoyable to drive.

IRONFIST

I just booked an appointment for a dyno tune at my local shop, but am seriously considering a mail tune after reading this.
Except I have no idea how a Mail tune would work, Frost if you read this please PM me, thanks.
To the OP; that kind of gain from just a tune change is awesome... but with AFR heads and a fast, and every other supporting mod I think i was expecting in the 440+range?
EDIT: Just noticed you're running thru a stalled AUTO, makes sense, great numbers in that case!

2QUIK4U

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You mail your ECU to Frost with a list of your mods and he flashes it and sends it back. It is a very easy process.

HP FEVER

Gas to your local shop: = $ 8.00
Magazines read while your car is getting tuned: = $7.00
Driving your car around with a Bad Tune when you 2nd Guessed yourself for NOT sending your ECU to Frost, after reading this thread: = PRICELESS !

Just send it

02ws.sik

ive seen a auto 02 trans am with lt and true duals, lid, maf, and slp bellow gained 61 hp off of a dyno tune.