LQ9, torquer V2,Hookers 1 7/8. FAST 92/102. UPDATED with TFS 215 Heads
03-26-2012, 03:55 PM
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the FAST 102/102 is in, i'll post the dyno graph when i have her dyno'd on wednesday.
the same dyno jet, weather's going to be about the same maybe 2 or 3* different but this will be to compare my FAST 102/102 setup compared to my LS6 intake and stock ported TB.
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the same dyno jet, weather's going to be about the same maybe 2 or 3* different but this will be to compare my FAST 102/102 setup compared to my LS6 intake and stock ported TB.
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03-28-2012, 03:49 PM
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Re dyno the car, and she made 438/405 with cutout open, before it was 429/401
so there 9 rwhp/ 4rwtq to my ls6 intake and stock ported TB.
pretty disappointed for the amount of money that i spent
will have Glen to re-tune her and we'll see if she's going to make more power.
the temperature today is around 78 not that it matters much.
so there 9 rwhp/ 4rwtq to my ls6 intake and stock ported TB.
pretty disappointed for the amount of money that i spent
will have Glen to re-tune her and we'll see if she's going to make more power.the temperature today is around 78 not that it matters much.
03-29-2012, 06:06 PM
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I have the same heads and V3, went from 423hp to 442hp going from LS6 intake to FAST 92/92....also added Kooks TD's. I lost a few hp below 4400rpms. Mine was also on a Mustang dyno.
If I could do it again I would go high 230's low 240's cam for sure. Probably pick up another 15-20 hp. I just didn't know enough about cams a year ago. I'm not doing another cam swap for a looong time though.
If I could do it again I would go high 230's low 240's cam for sure. Probably pick up another 15-20 hp. I just didn't know enough about cams a year ago. I'm not doing another cam swap for a looong time though.
03-29-2012, 11:19 PM
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For what its worth I love this cam. I thought about trex or ms4 but i don't want to lose any more gas mileage since its my DD, I got around 14-15mpg city, and 25+ hwy, I figure if I changed to ms3/4 I'd be around 11-13 city.
I'll have the car re tune next week on wednesday, we'll see what she makes I really want to crack 450 with this setup, I probably go SD tune with ftp 104 lid to get rid of the bottleneck on the MAF
I'll have the car re tune next week on wednesday, we'll see what she makes I really want to crack 450 with this setup, I probably go SD tune with ftp 104 lid to get rid of the bottleneck on the MAF
03-30-2012, 06:49 AM
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Car has stock 10 bolts with 3.73
Yea those gains were from swapping ls6 intake manifold and stock ported TB to fast 102 and NW 102, I really hope I could gain more with a tune.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE the throttle response and the car feels more responsive now than it was ever before, I could bark the tires shifting from 3 to 4th around 6500 never happened before.
As far as the dyno, I'll ask the shop to email me the graph, this was done on the same shop, same dynojet, same correction factor and similar weather with the first pull before the fast.
Yea those gains were from swapping ls6 intake manifold and stock ported TB to fast 102 and NW 102, I really hope I could gain more with a tune.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE the throttle response and the car feels more responsive now than it was ever before, I could bark the tires shifting from 3 to 4th around 6500 never happened before.
As far as the dyno, I'll ask the shop to email me the graph, this was done on the same shop, same dynojet, same correction factor and similar weather with the first pull before the fast.
03-30-2012, 10:31 AM
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Just ask him to free it up like a dynojet and you'll be a lot happier with the numbers. Dyno I was on will read 5-7% lower than a typical dynojet. But I did gain over 100rwhp with a budget H/C/I swap, so I'm happy with the results.
Being a DD I'd think twice about a SD tune, plus there not worth any more HP. Just get a $40 Z06 maf from e-bay if you still have the stock one. But the stocker is good up to 500hp.
Being a DD I'd think twice about a SD tune, plus there not worth any more HP. Just get a $40 Z06 maf from e-bay if you still have the stock one. But the stocker is good up to 500hp.
03-30-2012, 01:20 PM
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Brnt i think you misunderstood that the 438/405 pull was done on dyno jet(if it was on mustang dyno i'd be one happy camper) not on mustang dyno, i'll have her dyno on mustang dyno when she gets re tune and report back.
Reason i'm thinking about going with SD is because the 85mm MAF and lid is bottle necking the whole system. i'm pretty confident with FTP 104 lid and straight bellow to my 102 TB alone i would gain at least 3-5rwhp with the spot on tune i would expect around 12-15rwhp thus reach my goal of 450rwhp.
Reason i'm thinking about going with SD is because the 85mm MAF and lid is bottle necking the whole system. i'm pretty confident with FTP 104 lid and straight bellow to my 102 TB alone i would gain at least 3-5rwhp with the spot on tune i would expect around 12-15rwhp thus reach my goal of 450rwhp.
03-30-2012, 10:53 PM
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Gotcha on the dynojet. I'll be curious to see your results. The 85mm MAF is really a 90mm...I just can't see it as a restriction in your setup. Most don't really need a 102mm TB until large cubes, which is why a lot of guys go 92/102. But I hope you pull some good numbers for your effort!
04-01-2012, 10:07 PM
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seems pretty down on power for 6.0. my 347 with tsunami and 2.5 ls6 and fast 92/92,
ls7 clutch, steel driveshaft, and 12bolt put down 460/415... id figure your setup would be 475/440. unless the heads are really holding it back
edit: and i figured i get about 15-17city and 25 hwy
ls7 clutch, steel driveshaft, and 12bolt put down 460/415... id figure your setup would be 475/440. unless the heads are really holding it back
edit: and i figured i get about 15-17city and 25 hwy
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04-01-2012, 10:55 PM
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You are correct. Once you get the bigger MAF and ram air AND spend a ton of time on the tune, you will hit your goal. The big TB will help, but it takes a TON of tuning to get it right and many can't at all. The 1 7/8 headers are NOT hurting torque, not one iota. Make sure to check the silly stuff: injectors, fuel filter, clean air filter, A/C or alternator going out and dragging, etc.
04-02-2012, 09:40 PM
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the car will have another dyno tune session this wednesday, so we'll see what she makes.
To be honest i dont really have problem at all with the 102mm TB except for the occasional weird stuffs like when the car's still cold, if i accelerate and then let off the RPM would stay at 2K for a while until i completely dead stop. This doesn't happen when the car is on running temp though, and it's really intermittent problem, i figure a good tune will fix this.
2000NavyZ: the tsunami cam probably helped you alot, i've heard people gain 20rwhp from fast 102 but most of them have bigger size cam than i do.
To be honest i dont really have problem at all with the 102mm TB except for the occasional weird stuffs like when the car's still cold, if i accelerate and then let off the RPM would stay at 2K for a while until i completely dead stop. This doesn't happen when the car is on running temp though, and it's really intermittent problem, i figure a good tune will fix this.
2000NavyZ: the tsunami cam probably helped you alot, i've heard people gain 20rwhp from fast 102 but most of them have bigger size cam than i do.
04-03-2012, 10:08 AM
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the car will have another dyno tune session this wednesday, so we'll see what she makes.
To be honest i dont really have problem at all with the 102mm TB except for the occasional weird stuffs like when the car's still cold, if i accelerate and then let off the RPM would stay at 2K for a while until i completely dead stop. This doesn't happen when the car is on running temp though, and it's really intermittent problem, i figure a good tune will fix this.
2000NavyZ: the tsunami cam probably helped you alot, i've heard people gain 20rwhp from fast 102 but most of them have bigger size cam than i do.
To be honest i dont really have problem at all with the 102mm TB except for the occasional weird stuffs like when the car's still cold, if i accelerate and then let off the RPM would stay at 2K for a while until i completely dead stop. This doesn't happen when the car is on running temp though, and it's really intermittent problem, i figure a good tune will fix this.
2000NavyZ: the tsunami cam probably helped you alot, i've heard people gain 20rwhp from fast 102 but most of them have bigger size cam than i do.
I had that same problem after my tune. Turned out to be a small vacuum leak because I re-routed everything for my catch can. But your right, it could definitely be in the tune.
04-04-2012, 04:59 PM
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well just got back from the dyno, Glen looked at the tune and he said the tune is good and there's nothing he can do to squeeze more power from the setup. To put it short i am REALLY disappointed with FAST 102, i lose power everywhere except after 6200RPM and LOSE torque.
here's the graph.
The blue line is with the FAST 102
The green line is with LS6 intake
the number is corrected.
here's the graph.
The blue line is with the FAST 102
The green line is with LS6 intake
the number is corrected.