F13 Dyno Results- tuned by FMS
11-21-2004, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Futral Motorsports
Cool deal,should be killer. The Vig 3200 will be ok with the F13 since it acts like a 3600. Just let us know when you are ready to ship her.
11-21-2004, 06:40 PM
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stuff like this should always be taken with a grain of salt. the fm13 has been around for a while and these have got to be the highest cam only results i've seen irregardlesss of tranny/gear combo. i'd like to see what it traps at, with that power 118+ plus shouldnt be much of a problem.
11-21-2004, 06:44 PM
#43
and 350rwtq at 2800 rpm and 400rwtq at just over 4k cam only 
. you sure those 241 castings arent ported. that tq curve is remenicent of all those TEA and FMS combo cars that Allen tuned at back in feburary.
. you sure those 241 castings arent ported. that tq curve is remenicent of all those TEA and FMS combo cars that Allen tuned at back in feburary. Last edited by jrp; 11-21-2004 at 08:35 PM.
11-21-2004, 08:32 PM
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Keep in mind a brand new motor is going to dyno a little higher due to new rings, valve seals, etc.
I put down 404/424 with a TR224 in a LS6 crate motor with 500 miles on it. This was through a 3500 stall UNLOCKED. I took those numbers with a grain of salt.
Not to take anything away from the F13, it seems like a bad *** cam and FMS might get my business when it comes to a new cam.
I put down 404/424 with a TR224 in a LS6 crate motor with 500 miles on it. This was through a 3500 stall UNLOCKED. I took those numbers with a grain of salt.
Not to take anything away from the F13, it seems like a bad *** cam and FMS might get my business when it comes to a new cam.
11-21-2004, 09:57 PM
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My motor is an LS1 and not LS6. I got Jason to check the block # on the back side of the block and it isn't even an LS6 block. The heads are 241.
The motor was installed in the car when it had like 20 miles on it, i drove it to FMS and then he dynoed it, so i say around 30 miles on the motor.
When Jason was installing the cam and springs he even asked me how many miles were on the engine, and he said it was very believable because it was that clean.
I don't see how you guys are going to doubt Allans tuning #'s with his own cam? I brought him my 98 with 114K on the motor with a lid, mac mids and hooker catback, and he pulled 7hp and almost 12tq from an otherwise stock oilconsuming 98 motor. Like he told me, its because i have a stock 10 bolt with 3:42's.
I will have some track times after thanksgiving and Allan thinks 120mph won't be too hard to do with some DR's.
Im getting my car back on Wednesday and i'll let you guys know what i think of it. Going from 335hp/355tq, to 430hp and 414tq!!!
The motor was installed in the car when it had like 20 miles on it, i drove it to FMS and then he dynoed it, so i say around 30 miles on the motor.
When Jason was installing the cam and springs he even asked me how many miles were on the engine, and he said it was very believable because it was that clean.
I don't see how you guys are going to doubt Allans tuning #'s with his own cam? I brought him my 98 with 114K on the motor with a lid, mac mids and hooker catback, and he pulled 7hp and almost 12tq from an otherwise stock oilconsuming 98 motor. Like he told me, its because i have a stock 10 bolt with 3:42's.
I will have some track times after thanksgiving and Allan thinks 120mph won't be too hard to do with some DR's.
Im getting my car back on Wednesday and i'll let you guys know what i think of it. Going from 335hp/355tq, to 430hp and 414tq!!!
11-21-2004, 10:55 PM
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(I don't see how you guys are going to doubt Allans tuning #'s with his own cam?-Quoted from Kaligah98z) I dont doubt his tuning abilities either . He got 388rwhp locked outta my z28 which had 105k miles on it at the time. Stock heads w/ F11, macs and just normal bolt-ons. Way more than i expected. I dont doubt his abilities one bit. Thats one reason im going with them again.
11-22-2004, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalijah98z
My motor is an LS1 and not LS6. I got Jason to check the block # on the back side of the block and it isn't even an LS6 block. The heads are 241.
The motor was installed in the car when it had like 20 miles on it, i drove it to FMS and then he dynoed it, so i say around 30 miles on the motor.
When Jason was installing the cam and springs he even asked me how many miles were on the engine, and he said it was very believable because it was that clean.
I don't see how you guys are going to doubt Allans tuning #'s with his own cam? I brought him my 98 with 114K on the motor with a lid, mac mids and hooker catback, and he pulled 7hp and almost 12tq from an otherwise stock oilconsuming 98 motor. Like he told me, its because i have a stock 10 bolt with 3:42's.
I will have some track times after thanksgiving and Allan thinks 120mph won't be too hard to do with some DR's.
Im getting my car back on Wednesday and i'll let you guys know what i think of it. Going from 335hp/355tq, to 430hp and 414tq!!!
The motor was installed in the car when it had like 20 miles on it, i drove it to FMS and then he dynoed it, so i say around 30 miles on the motor.
When Jason was installing the cam and springs he even asked me how many miles were on the engine, and he said it was very believable because it was that clean.
I don't see how you guys are going to doubt Allans tuning #'s with his own cam? I brought him my 98 with 114K on the motor with a lid, mac mids and hooker catback, and he pulled 7hp and almost 12tq from an otherwise stock oilconsuming 98 motor. Like he told me, its because i have a stock 10 bolt with 3:42's.
I will have some track times after thanksgiving and Allan thinks 120mph won't be too hard to do with some DR's.
Im getting my car back on Wednesday and i'll let you guys know what i think of it. Going from 335hp/355tq, to 430hp and 414tq!!!
11-22-2004, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jrp
i dont see anybody doubting his tuning ability, i've seen what the can do. like i said, your numbers are remenicent of the dozen or so cars alan tuned that had TEA heads. but those guys had way more mods then you, fresh shortblock or not.
Congrats nonetheless
11-22-2004, 04:37 AM
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It's a lot of power for stock heads, but anything can happen these days. 3 years ago, had you came on here and told ANYONE you made 450 rwhp with heads/cam you'd get laughed on the board. Heads/cam 346's are now making 500 rwhp, anything is possible.
FWIW, my setup was on a 114+0 setup. Had I been on a 108-110 ICL, I would have had a MUCH fatter TQ curve (I think).
FWIW, my setup was on a 114+0 setup. Had I been on a 108-110 ICL, I would have had a MUCH fatter TQ curve (I think).
11-22-2004, 07:55 AM
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Very nice numbers. As was mentioned before, I've never seen a cam-only F13 setup make anything substantially over 400. You're the exception to the rule.
By comparison, I made 393rwhp with my F13, tuned, full bolt ons through the old exhaust. M6, stock geared 10bolt. I don't think my car is a dyno turd either; Allan told me ~400rwhp is where that cam should have put me.
Take it to the track and see what it runs.
By comparison, I made 393rwhp with my F13, tuned, full bolt ons through the old exhaust. M6, stock geared 10bolt. I don't think my car is a dyno turd either; Allan told me ~400rwhp is where that cam should have put me.
Take it to the track and see what it runs.
11-22-2004, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jlaw
Very nice numbers. As was mentioned before, I've never seen a cam-only F13 setup make anything substantially over 400. You're the exception to the rule.
By comparison, I made 393rwhp with my F13, tuned, full bolt ons through the old exhaust. M6, stock geared 10bolt. I don't think my car is a dyno turd either; Allan told me ~400rwhp is where that cam should have put me.
Take it to the track and see what it runs.
By comparison, I made 393rwhp with my F13, tuned, full bolt ons through the old exhaust. M6, stock geared 10bolt. I don't think my car is a dyno turd either; Allan told me ~400rwhp is where that cam should have put me.
Take it to the track and see what it runs.
Well seems like i have a wednesday motor
Im getting the car back day before thanksgiving and the next following wednesday is when im going out to NPR to see what kind of MPH im gonna get on street tires. Hopefully i can find somebody to let me use thier DR's.
Allan is also doing his port/epoxy job on my throttle body and i hope he dynos it again to see what that difference made. I'll get back with ya'll with some times.
Elijah
11-22-2004, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
It's a lot of power for stock heads, but anything can happen these days. 3 years ago, had you came on here and told ANYONE you made 450 rwhp with heads/cam you'd get laughed on the board. Heads/cam 346's are now making 500 rwhp, anything is possible.
FWIW, my setup was on a 114+0 setup. Had I been on a 108-110 ICL, I would have had a MUCH fatter TQ curve (I think).
FWIW, my setup was on a 114+0 setup. Had I been on a 108-110 ICL, I would have had a MUCH fatter TQ curve (I think).
but i guess you could chalk it up to freak **** like jasons 393rwhp stock head with ls6 cam results.
11-22-2004, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
but i guess you could chalk it up to freak **** like jasons 393rwhp stock head with ls6 cam results.
11-22-2004, 10:49 PM
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393rwhp with an LS6 cam, huh? Hmm...I think he's packing a trick or two up his sleeve...
JRP, I feel ya. I dont really get into the dyno wars anymore, to busy ridin my bike these days
11-23-2004, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Damian
Nah, Jason's car is just one of a kind. He's ALWAYS been able to produce unreal #'s out of his setups....He's the TR posterchild, he has too
JRP, I feel ya. I dont really get into the dyno wars anymore, to busy ridin my bike these days
JRP, I feel ya. I dont really get into the dyno wars anymore, to busy ridin my bike these days
11-23-2004, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
ONE of a kind? Hows that when he just installed the author's motor which is just as much if not more of a freak. Thats why I said that. Maybe I should fly him to NY to touch and bless my engine
-Go 121 mph with a TR224/stock heads setup
-Make 455 rwhp with stock LS1 heads
-Run 10's @ 125 with stock LS1 heads
-Run low 10's @ 131+ with a Hydraulic setup
-Make 400 rwhp with an LS6 cam and stock LS1 heads
So yea, I think he's pretty much a one of a kind kinda guy/car
11-23-2004, 03:46 PM
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You're missing what I was saying. I was mostly joking around pointing to the fact that his car is a freak and than he installs a motor in this guys car which turns out to be possibly even more of a freak. Things that make you go hmmm.... I think he be squirtin them cylinder walls with the same stuff Chevy Chase used on the bottom of his sled in Christmas Vacation.
11-23-2004, 03:49 PM
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I think he be squirtin them cylinder walls with the same stuff Chevy Chase used on the bottom of his sled in Christmas Vacation.
You do remember that the sled had a huge hole burn in the bottem of it and it was sitting by the trash can on the curb dont you?
