Dyno'd My A&A P1SC kit yesterday 603/482-now have lots of questions!
07-01-2006, 08:15 PM
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Dyno'd My A&A P1SC kit yesterday 603/482-now have lots of questions! For starters my car is a 02 Z06, F7 cam( 224/230 114+4) Stock 317 heads milled to 69.5cc( 9.85CR), 60lb inj, LPE pump, KB BAP, SW headers going into factory 02 Z06 cats and exiting a GHL catback. Pulley is a 4.10 boost was around 7-9 and air temps were around 80 degrees( it was humid).
Anyway car made a best of 606 but I settled on a 603/483 rwhp. I'm happy for sure but I have a few questions. I logged the runs via HPT and had my Dynojet wideband commander permantely hooked up with the gauge in the pillar. My Histogram show'd a AFR of 11.2 across the board the Dyno show'd 10.1 to 6000 then it rose to 11.1 by 6500. My Histogram show'd it rise to 12.1 at 6500. What sensor is the accurate one? The dyno is reading at the tailpipe after my factory cats where my WBC is reading before the cat. We made a pull with my buddies 99 mustang and his LM1 read 11.9 while the Dyno read 11.7-he has no cats. Anyway for whatever reason the car liked the AFR right there cause that's where it made the most power. But still I would like to know which reading to trust.
Second question was the torque-I was a bit disapointed-I'm thinking about dumping my factory cats to and running a 3" Dr.Gas X-pipe right after the cats. Do you think that would help my torque jump over 500? I played with timing and fuel but i didn't get much response from the torque-or what about some Hi-flow cats like the Dynotech's or Random's or should i just dump them alltogether?
Third question is the airline that goies from my valvecover to my blower inlet. I put a small air water seperater inline but when the car is under boost it fills up fast from the blower creating a vacuum. I need to vent this to the atmospshere-I got a Metco Valve cover breather but It won't fit under my stock hood-does anyone have any other suggestions. My PCV line has a air water seperater too and a one-way check valve and it ssems to be working fine. Just need to figure out someway to hook up a breather?
I have my graph saved in a PDF file-for some reason that was the only way I was able to save it. I can email to someone if they care to host it. Oh pulley was a 4.10 and boost was around 7-9psi, air temps rose from 80 at the beginning of the pull to 109 at the end of the pull-meth is going on next.
Any inputs or suggestions are welcomed-thanks guys!
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Anyway car made a best of 606 but I settled on a 603/483 rwhp. I'm happy for sure but I have a few questions. I logged the runs via HPT and had my Dynojet wideband commander permantely hooked up with the gauge in the pillar. My Histogram show'd a AFR of 11.2 across the board the Dyno show'd 10.1 to 6000 then it rose to 11.1 by 6500. My Histogram show'd it rise to 12.1 at 6500. What sensor is the accurate one? The dyno is reading at the tailpipe after my factory cats where my WBC is reading before the cat. We made a pull with my buddies 99 mustang and his LM1 read 11.9 while the Dyno read 11.7-he has no cats. Anyway for whatever reason the car liked the AFR right there cause that's where it made the most power. But still I would like to know which reading to trust.
Second question was the torque-I was a bit disapointed-I'm thinking about dumping my factory cats to and running a 3" Dr.Gas X-pipe right after the cats. Do you think that would help my torque jump over 500? I played with timing and fuel but i didn't get much response from the torque-or what about some Hi-flow cats like the Dynotech's or Random's or should i just dump them alltogether?
Third question is the airline that goies from my valvecover to my blower inlet. I put a small air water seperater inline but when the car is under boost it fills up fast from the blower creating a vacuum. I need to vent this to the atmospshere-I got a Metco Valve cover breather but It won't fit under my stock hood-does anyone have any other suggestions. My PCV line has a air water seperater too and a one-way check valve and it ssems to be working fine. Just need to figure out someway to hook up a breather?
I have my graph saved in a PDF file-for some reason that was the only way I was able to save it. I can email to someone if they care to host it. Oh pulley was a 4.10 and boost was around 7-9psi, air temps rose from 80 at the beginning of the pull to 109 at the end of the pull-meth is going on next.
Any inputs or suggestions are welcomed-thanks guys!
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07-01-2006, 09:33 PM
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Sweet power. Still working on the ultimate sleeper huh? Well done.
The cats may be costing you some power, but if you use the metal matrix ones, the losses will be small. I would trust the A/F reading before the cat when you're running on the road or track. They give you a much truer reading of your real A/F ratio. WB's up the tailpipe are notorious for reading lean, especially if you have cats. Trust the pre-cat sensor for sure.
The cats may be costing you some power, but if you use the metal matrix ones, the losses will be small. I would trust the A/F reading before the cat when you're running on the road or track. They give you a much truer reading of your real A/F ratio. WB's up the tailpipe are notorious for reading lean, especially if you have cats. Trust the pre-cat sensor for sure.
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Thanks Patrick. I was really confused with the wideband readings but I guess it's just safe to stick with the leaner readings. I don't know if the WBC has a calibration feature. I was real nervous about the blower setup-I didn't expect this much power especially since I lowered the compression( for safety's sake). So far so good but I must admit having a solid H/C car like yours leaves one less thing to worry about.
I just got mine finished also, I can't stay out of the car. Congrats.
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The guage had the averaging times turned up too hi-i turned it down now. It was making peaks of 8-9psi. Andy's kts are really impressive compared to Prochargers standard issue kits.
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Thanks bro-I'm actually in the middle of swapping cams and adding meth. I'm going to turn down the power to around 575 but I would like to see torque over 500. I'm sure the car could of made more-but I need to push this car inot the 10's first!
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Sweet power. Still working on the ultimate sleeper huh? Well done.
The cats may be costing you some power, but if you use the metal matrix ones, the losses will be small. I would trust the A/F reading before the cat when you're running on the road or track. They give you a much truer reading of your real A/F ratio. WB's up the tailpipe are notorious for reading lean, especially if you have cats. Trust the pre-cat sensor for sure.
The cats may be costing you some power, but if you use the metal matrix ones, the losses will be small. I would trust the A/F reading before the cat when you're running on the road or track. They give you a much truer reading of your real A/F ratio. WB's up the tailpipe are notorious for reading lean, especially if you have cats. Trust the pre-cat sensor for sure.
Patrick the sleeper thing died as soon as you dumped the CheaTR cam bro! It never ends does it buddy-we keep changing our cars like woman change shoes-lol. Maybe you should test out Thunder's new blower cam-let's see how it works with a nice D1SC kit on your car!
07-11-2006, 04:47 PM
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Ummmm....D1SC... 
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2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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