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Old 01-04-2009, 09:08 AM
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http://www.mustangevolution.com/wp-c.../2007/06/7.jpg

yeah its the car I was thinking of, every badge has "super snake" the super snake stickers, the super snake headrests, center console, guage cluster, door sills and dash plaque....

so all in all the thing says super snake on it almost 20 times, guess that makes it super cool....

Zr1 for sure....with its power to weight and much better suspension it should get the showoff snake IMO
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Originally Posted by speedshifterNC
power to weight favors the vette in every area...tune them and it would prolly get worse for the supersized snake
Tune them and it'll get worse for the Vette. The blower on the Super Snake is only pullied to make 16lbs of boost and is capable of 30

Power to weight for the Vette is 5.2lbs per 1hp
Official weight for the Shelby is 3920lbs ( i didn't know i liked fat girls) so the power to weight ratio for the Super Snake 5.41lbs per 1hp.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
Smith has piloted numerous 600+rwhp cars to only low 120s, and they were a few hundred pounds lighter.
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Edit: found the article. Impressive, but they were quite a bit shy of 137.
You're right. It was 134mph, which is still several mph faster than the ZR1...and at 4,000lbs.




The vast majority of LSx owners here aren't even in the 11's yet...but they are quick to flap their gums about how this car doesn't perform.
That's incredible performance for a 4,000lb car that behaves like a stock 300rwhp car.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
weight has less and less to do with how fast a car is the more speed you gather.

the veyron does 252mph and its almost 4300lbs
its got 16 Cylinders and 4 turbos LOL!
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Originally Posted by Tainted
weight has less and less to do with how fast a car is the more speed you gather.

the veyron does 252mph and its almost 4300lbs
Why don't you school further. Discuss how long it took to get the Bugatti up to 252mph. Then tell me that aeordynamics and weight don't play a role.
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Originally Posted by unit213
That's incredible performance for a 4,000lb car that behaves like a stock 300rwhp car.
I agree. That car is nasty and it even has the EPA's stamp of approval which is a pretty awesome accomplishment in itself.
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Originally Posted by The Manalishi
I agree. That car is nasty and it even has the EPA's stamp of approval which is a pretty awesome accomplishment in itself.
We live in a great time for performance cars...the best time ever...literally.
I love it when older folks tell me about their big block cars and they run 12's. Technology is a great thing.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
No it does not. Aerodynamics do. It takes more power to push a car through the air as speeds increase and the aerodynamic properties of each car.
haha sorry i actually meant to put aero, as thats what my post focused on.doh. my bad, thx.
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Originally Posted by unit213
We live in a great time for performance cars...the best time ever...literally.
I love it when older folks tell me about their big block cars and they run 12's. Technology is a great thing.
Most of them were lucky to run that fast, in completely stock form anyway. I remember when I was in high school an 11 second street car was considered fast as hell. Now its not impressive at all. The cars today are by far, faster, safer, easier to live with and cleaner. I still love the old muscle cars but they aren't the end all of performance that some people believe. They are cool as hell but thats more because of styling and the legends that surround a few of them.
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Seen this article yesterday at the parts store. The cover read something along the lines of "ZR1 Killer", so out of curiosity I opend the mag and read the article. Good to see Ford actually running some decent times with some of there special edition cars.

Not trying to start an argument, but stock C6 Z06's on run flats have ran high 10's around 128. I have HEARD of ZR1's on the run flats doing 132-134, the mustang had MT ET STREETS launching near 4,000rpms. Would have liked to see the sixty foot on that timeslip, anything over 2,000rpm launches in a ZR1 destroys the tires, lets put the same tire on the Zr1 and see how it Ets??
Ford warrenty's the 605hp version for 12,000 miles. The ZR1 warrenty's the 638hp for 100,000 miles, no brainer there.

Somone posted about how the KB GT500 could boost up?? Do you not think the ZR1 could do the same?? Ultimately I would rather take the ligher car and the more efficient 376CI motor and boost it.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
I need moar pics of your GF ponyboy.



I'd say the ZR1's lower weight would help it greatly at low speeds then its sleek profile will give it the W as speeds increase.
If hedoesn't send some to you, I will.
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Isnt the zr1 638 at like 10lb of boost?
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Originally Posted by chevydan
Isnt the zr1 638 at like 10lb of boost?
lol yea I wonder how much it would make at 16 pounds lol
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And I wonder how quick it would blow up at 30 pounds? Like Unit said in the beginning, these cars really shouldn't be compared at all. Either way they are both VERY impressive, and very fast. That being said, I would rather have a Z06.
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Zr1 Kills Thats piece
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Originally Posted by nitr0racing21
lol yea I wonder how much it would make at 16 pounds lol
Not much more considering the Zr1 sports a good ole heaton! You'd end up with a very expensive paper weight of an LS9!
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Originally Posted by unit213
Show me.
No problem.

1. 601rwhp, 122mph http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...st_system.html

2. 605rwhp, 121mph http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ger/page3.html

The vast majority of LSx owners here aren't even in the 11's yet...but they are quick to flap their gums about how this car doesn't perform.
I agree, but I am not one of those vast majority. And I didn't need any type of forced induction to get my 3800lb car to do what it does.

Back to my point. Unit, you think a nearly 4100lb brick with an advertised 725hp should be in the mid-upper 130s through the traps!?
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Well i dont think it is fair to include trap speeds from the super snake with the MT's on there. I mean that is a huge help for it, as far as i know they dont come with those from the factory. And also to 180 it would take a lot of road, not a prepped track. So that would hurt the supersnake off the line more then the zr1, i just dont think it would be able to run down the zr1.
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No the zr1 will kill that Garden Snake
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