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94Mustang302ci · 01-03-2009, 01:50 PM

I was wondering which of the most powerful american super cars would win in a 1/4 mile and 0-180mph race between the GT500 725hp Super Snake and the 638hp ZR1 Corvette?

I believe the Super Snake is faster in the 1/4 137mph trap speeds to the Zr1's 130mph. Which would win the 0-180

unit213 · 01-03-2009, 02:42 PM

I have to believe the ZR1 is faster from 0 to 180mph.

These are two cars that really shouldn't be compared to each other since they differ so greatly. BUT...that's what Ford & GM guys do.

The ZR1 doesn't have the trap speed, but it could definitely out ET the GT500.
Keep in mind that Evan Smith cracked off 10.80's on a tire in the Super Snake.
That same tire on a ZR1 would easily produce 10's.

There is no arguing trap speed though.

Tainted · 01-03-2009, 02:55 PM

its still a 4000lb rustang either way

Marc 85Z28 · 01-03-2009, 03:28 PM

137mph traps? From a Mustang that weighs more than 2 tons, with aero engineering done by a bricklayer, and has an advertised 725hp? Source?

lookin4aTA · 01-03-2009, 03:29 PM

IT would be a suprise if the ZR1 wouldn't be faster to 180. It weighs what 3200lbs to the Snakes 4000ish, is MUCH more aerodynamic as well. I think it would be close but once you get past 130-140, the weight and aero advantage of the ZR1 would start to take hold.

What is the gearing of both? That would have a big effect too.

unit213 · 01-03-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28

137mph traps? From a Mustang that weighs more than 2 tons, with aero engineering done by a bricklayer, and has an advertised 725hp? Source?

The track.

Evan Smith did it for a Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords article.
He's a ringer so call it 11.0 @ 135 for the rest of the world.
Still, that's damned impressive for a 4,000lb pony car.

Tainted · 01-03-2009, 05:19 PM

weight has less and less to do with how fast a car is the more speed you gather.

the veyron does 252mph and its almost 4300lbs

WSsick · 01-03-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tainted

weight has less and less to do with how fast a car is the more speed you gather.

the veyron does 252mph and its almost 4300lbs

eh, kinda. the veyron could only do ~230 with all the power and then they had to rework the aero to get the extra 20mph. weight plays more of a factor the faster you go. i forgot the exact wording, but it takes a certain amount of more hp to move a car as speed/drag increases.

Sarge_13 · 01-03-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WSsick

eh, kinda. the veyron could only do ~230 with all the power and then they had to rework the aero to get the extra 20mph. weight plays more of a factor the faster you go. i forgot the exact wording, but it takes a certain amount of more hp to move a car as speed/drag increases.

No it does not. Aerodynamics do. It takes more power to push a car through the air as speeds increase and the aerodynamic properties of each car.

94Mustang302ci · 01-03-2009, 07:20 PM

On paper this seems like a good race. I'd love to see this happen but unless i hit the lotto or the two get together and its filmed i'll probably never see it. With the 87hp advantage I thought it'd be a good race. The rear ratio on a Super Snake is 3.73's.

I really hope they find a way to get the weight down on the next line of Mustangs. 4200lbs is not a pony car. A baby hippo maybe!

MadMike96 · 01-03-2009, 07:24 PM

there was a thread on here some where, the vette out performed the snake in every thing i think

ponygt65 · 01-03-2009, 07:28 PM

I'm just glad to see them putting these kind of cars together. I mean....WOW in an age where EPA and MPG rule...look what we have.

McDonald's baby.....baddabababah....I'm lovin' it.

speedshifterNC · 01-03-2009, 07:38 PM

ZR1 is king

94Mustang302ci · 01-03-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by speedshifterNC

ZR1 is king

of being 2nd to the super snake in horsepower of the big 3.

Sarge_13 · 01-03-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ponygt65

I'm just glad to see them putting these kind of cars together. I mean....WOW in an age where EPA and MPG rule...look what we have.

McDonald's baby.....baddabababah....I'm lovin' it.

I need moar pics of your GF ponyboy.

I'd say the ZR1's lower weight would help it greatly at low speeds then its sleek profile will give it the W as speeds increase.

Bumpin' Yota · 01-04-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 94Mustang302ci

...4200lbs is not a pony car. A baby hippo maybe!

Or a pregnant hippo!

lol

RaggedRides · 01-04-2009, 01:59 AM

I'm putting my stack on the ZR1. I mean, people have managed similar times from "lowly" Z06ers.

Traps though... Thing's an animal.

Here's something I found interesting.. The 'Vette's swinging a 100,000 mile warranty, yes? If you want to retain that in the Snake, step down to 600 rated horses and 590ftlbs. Not a ricer argument, but an observation.

Summerwolf · 01-04-2009, 03:59 AM

Are the super snakes the one that have like 12-15 "super snake" emblems on them? If so....I hope everyone hits a tree since those things are hideous and I can't read super snake the first 3 times on the car

Marc 85Z28 · 01-04-2009, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by unit213

The track.

Evan Smith did it for a Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords article.
He's a ringer so call it 11.0 @ 135 for the rest of the world.
Still, that's damned impressive for a 4,000lb pony car.

I figured it would be them, but after checking their site I came up with nothing. It should take over 800rwhp to push that car to that trap speed. Smith has piloted numerous 600+rwhp cars to only low 120s, and they were a few hundred pounds lighter.

Edit: found the article. Impressive, but they were quite a bit shy of 137.

speedshifterNC · 01-04-2009, 07:53 AM

power to weight favors the vette in every area...tune them and it would prolly get worse for the supersized snake

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