Anyone running a turbo with nitrous
Anyone running a turbo with nitrous 
12-07-2009, 08:23 PM
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I will be running a 408 stroker.80#s injector #8 feed line and 2 pumps in the tank. STS turbo kit, Turbo is a GT70. The nitrous is a wet kit. I was thinking of a 100shot. But I don't know what will be safe for boost psi.
12-07-2009, 08:59 PM
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Its very common with the dsm guys...It can work well. As said the shot is magnified under boost and boost is cheaper than nitrous so smalls shots are best..50,75 100 or so tops.
I have spray capability on my car. Plan on running small shot as said above. Advantages pretty much instant spool up, great cooling effect as well. I mostly put my kit on for intimdiation factor and car show appeal. actually non direct port is better for running smaller shots do to the jet sizes getting small on direct port which can clog easier.
So spary away just keep the shot on the smaller end.
I have spray capability on my car. Plan on running small shot as said above. Advantages pretty much instant spool up, great cooling effect as well. I mostly put my kit on for intimdiation factor and car show appeal. actually non direct port is better for running smaller shots do to the jet sizes getting small on direct port which can clog easier.
So spary away just keep the shot on the smaller end.
12-07-2009, 10:50 PM
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Its very common with the dsm guys...It can work well. As said the shot is magnified under boost and boost is cheaper than nitrous so smalls shots are best..50,75 100 or so tops.
I have spray capability on my car. Plan on running small shot as said above. Advantages pretty much instant spool up, great cooling effect as well. I mostly put my kit on for intimdiation factor and car show appeal. actually non direct port is better for running smaller shots do to the jet sizes getting small on direct port which can clog easier.
So spary away just keep the shot on the smaller end.
I have spray capability on my car. Plan on running small shot as said above. Advantages pretty much instant spool up, great cooling effect as well. I mostly put my kit on for intimdiation factor and car show appeal. actually non direct port is better for running smaller shots do to the jet sizes getting small on direct port which can clog easier.
So spary away just keep the shot on the smaller end.
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12-07-2009, 10:59 PM
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It really depends on many factors such as engine compression, fuel system, fuel type, tune, etc. On your set-up, for 93 oct., if your compression is about 9.0:1, I would try 12 psi and if you insist on nitrous, maybe a 50 shot on top and keep a close eye on back pressure.
12-07-2009, 11:01 PM
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I ve done it a few times. But you better have your tune down and know what your doing. Tuning nitrous with fi is difficult. The fp on the nitrous system varies with boost(but your nitrous does NOT), so it makes tuning very very difficult, depending on your application. If you only spray after its up to your set boost ....fine, if you only spray it to make boost....fine. But to get to the magic, spray it all the time......well, experience pays off.
Its a fntastic intercooler so thats why it "works" so well even with small amounts, but your mixture changes drastically, due to huge temp drops and extra o2.
Its a fntastic intercooler so thats why it "works" so well even with small amounts, but your mixture changes drastically, due to huge temp drops and extra o2.
12-07-2009, 11:37 PM
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I ve done it a few times. But you better have your tune down and know what your doing. Tuning nitrous with fi is difficult. The fp on the nitrous system varies with boost(but your nitrous does NOT), so it makes tuning very very difficult, depending on your application. If you only spray after its up to your set boost ....fine, if you only spray it to make boost....fine. But to get to the magic, spray it all the time......well, experience pays off.
Its a fntastic intercooler so thats why it "works" so well even with small amounts, but your mixture changes drastically, due to huge temp drops and extra o2.
Its a fntastic intercooler so thats why it "works" so well even with small amounts, but your mixture changes drastically, due to huge temp drops and extra o2.
12-08-2009, 12:50 AM
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I am looking to make the most HP that I can. So should I not run the nitrous and just run the meth with my turbo? Or should I run the nitrous and the meth with my turbo? Or should I have both installed and ready for when I go to have it dyno tune. Tune it first with the meth and turbo. Then put the nitrous in the tune and see the number differents.
12-08-2009, 08:54 AM
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I remember when I had my Conquest. I sprayed a 50 shot fogger on top of 25psi and it gained 104hp on the dyno! I guess that tells me the intake charge was a little hot.
12-08-2009, 11:15 AM
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Again if have a normal wet setup with single nozzle run the lowest shots like 50 or 75. Still get great benefits and tuning changes would be minimal. You don't change injectors for wet kits only dry. 50 shot is not going to radically do that much to your air fuel. Just run a bit richer ,say if you run 11.8 on boost then maybe run 11.0 or 10.5 and timing you really don't have to pull out much for a 50 or 75 shot. Just run a couple degrees less or you could get a box that allows you to dial out a few degrees like lingenfelter two step with timing retard for boost or spray. Most turbo tunes are pretty conservative on timing. Meth works with nitrous too. I will have meth/alc injection nozzles where my maf used to go and then the direct port nozzles are in the intake.
I am not sure if you do want to run meth and spray nozzles at same location..? As for spraying nitrous before the intercooler well think its most effective right into the tb or engine. Meth before the intercooler maybe??
I see no reason to run big shots and as said boost is free,spray isn't so really just use to spool up the turbos and to supercool things.
I am not sure if you do want to run meth and spray nozzles at same location..? As for spraying nitrous before the intercooler well think its most effective right into the tb or engine. Meth before the intercooler maybe??
I see no reason to run big shots and as said boost is free,spray isn't so really just use to spool up the turbos and to supercool things.
12-08-2009, 04:55 PM
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or for spooling a larger turbo at low rpms. I have used nitrous with a turbo before with great benifits. I would use a standalone like bigstuff or fast to control the nitrous.(I used aem standalone ecu} or a window switch.
12-08-2009, 05:11 PM
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I am very interested in this, doing a 67mm sts build w/meth, stock engine though, would the engine handle a 50 shot? I dont see why not, Im tuning with hp tuners and going to run 2 bar sd. Asking cuz I have a wet plate kit in my garage staring at me 
12-08-2009, 05:18 PM
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The reason I'm going with 80#s injectors is after the turbo kit is installed and having it stroked to 408 C/R should be 9:1 somewhere around their. I will then do a roller cam kit, heads, intake and TB. My C/R should go down more when I do the heads. I am think of selling my sts kit and go with one of Josh's front mount kits. The reason I was asking about the nitrous and added in the meth. Is because they are so many that says no and yes. But they are a few that are running both the nitrous and meth and they dyno over 1000hp But I dont know how they have it set up. I just wanted to see what you all thought about it. I do know that one of them guys have the direct port nitrous and that he use the nitous just to the 1/8 mile. Then he stops the nitrous and lets the meth do the rest.