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Old 02-08-2010, 12:43 AM
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Just trying to figure out where to put my o2 sensors..someone said it wasn't a good idea to put them in the cross over and to put them in the downpipe and some said it was fine....any ideas?

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1 in each crossover and use a wideband in the DP.
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if you have both banks in the downpipe, how is the ECU going to account for the different banks running different if they're reading the same thing in the downpipe?

Put them in the crossover, and a wideband in the downpipe
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Thats what I thought..but I was told otherwise by a friend.
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Kick him in the nuts
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Originally Posted by XtremeDime
Kick him in the nuts
and then laugh when he puts his in the DP and it doesnt read both banks
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Originally Posted by reamo04
and then laugh when he puts his in the DP and it doesnt read both banks
lol
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More then likely a 02 sensor will read alittle off and also fail faster being pre turbo in each bank. I usually tune OL to avoid potential problems.
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why?.................
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Originally Posted by Snyper
why?.................
The pressure differential will cause the arf's to be slightly off, and the heat pre turbo will take its toll on the sensor.

Starting on page 7 of this installation manual for a AEM wideband its say's the same thing. I have read similar in many other places.

http://www.aempower.com/images/produ...%2030-4100.pdf

Or page 5 here:

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...LM1_Manual.pdf

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Why are the factory o2 bungs ON the manifolds on a c6 then? Doesn't seem to make sense.
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Originally Posted by Snyper
Why are the factory o2 bungs ON the manifolds on a c6 then? Doesn't seem to make sense.
Does a stock c6 come with a turbo? The issue is the turbo causing the backpressure, and heat.
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So what are my other options..how do people usually run them?
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Originally Posted by Snyper
So what are my other options..how do people usually run them?
If you are going to run them in a single turbo application you need to put one in each bank pre-turbo. If you are running twins you can put them in the downpipes post turbo. In a single app. I either dont use factory sensors and tune in open loop, or dont expect them to last long.
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Originally Posted by black98ws6ta
If you are going to run them in a single turbo application you need to put one in each bank pre-turbo. If you are running twins you can put them in the downpipes post turbo. In a single app. I either dont use factory sensors and tune in open loop, or dont expect them to last long.
I have emissions to deal with unfort. Maybe I can get 2 tunes. One with for emissions and one without for normal driving and just install them when I go to get tested.
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Wait, you can pass IM with an LSX-swapped and turboed 350z? What the hell? I cant even pass with the stock motor turboed. You east coast guys are lucky lol
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Its not as easy as it sounds. As long as my ecu isnt throwing any codes or a bunch of "not readys" im set.
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Still man, I dont have a prayer lol
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Narrow band O2 are fine pre-turbo, they take heat much better then WB o2's. And there not used in WOT anyway so accuracy is not important there. Mine have been pre-turbo for 4 years and still work great!
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I guess you can try the narrowband pre turbo, but I've always heard it's a bad idea. No first hand experience though. My WB told me if it's on a turbo app, it needs to be at least 12" past the turbine on the downpipe. I put it about 24" past, and no problems.


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