Built LT1 or LQ9 6.0L
02-09-2010, 01:32 AM
#1
Built LT1 or LQ9 6.0L I have has some recent interest in my PTK kit and possiblty my forged 355 which are all new. Have always wanted a 6.0 in this car (96 SS clone) just due to the fact that it would be unusual and the 6.0 is fairly bulletproof with aftermarket rods and pistons. This would of course mean I would have to fab up a turbo kit ( I can tig fairly well) and would most likely use stainless for the hot side and aluminum on the cold. And then there is always the wiring bs to contend with which looks fairly straight forward. I am going to be running a PT-88. If I go 6.0 the block will be machined, AFR 225's, FAST manifold, Forged rods and retain the stock crank along with some morel lifters I have and a turbo cam. It has to retain a/c as I live in hell.lol. You will die without a/c in the summer. Not an option to delete it.
What is everyones opinion on this? Stick with the built LT1 or make the extra effort with the rare 6.0 on a LT1 car? Thanks
What is everyones opinion on this? Stick with the built LT1 or make the extra effort with the rare 6.0 on a LT1 car? Thanks
Last edited by 355TurboLT1; 02-09-2010 at 02:01 AM.
02-09-2010, 01:49 AM
#3
If you have the money and the time, a 6.0 will have far more potential than an LSx, thats just the way it is. Depends on your goals as well, a well built LT1 can make plenty of power on boost.
Seeing as you've already invested in a turbo kit and forged LT1 seems kind of late to ask this question though, lol.
Seeing as you've already invested in a turbo kit and forged LT1 seems kind of late to ask this question though, lol.
02-09-2010, 01:51 AM
#4
Personally since you already have a forged motor I'd stick with it. I'm not a fan of spending money when I don't necessarily need to so regardless of what people think about LTX platform in general, keep the motor unless it will not help you reach your goals for the car or something happens to the motor that requires you getting a new motor.
02-09-2010, 01:54 AM
#5
Never too late. lol. Its only money! This project has changed many times. Its one of many cars I have built. The main thing I see the LQ9 providing me is not a huge power advantage ( I will have plenty with a PT88 no matter what motor at this point and how the LT1 is built) but more of a unique quality in that I have never seen a 96 with a LSX 6.0/. Planning to have the car in a magazine and show it from time to time. Again doesn't have to have the 6.0 just want to see some opinions on here.
Regarding what people think of the LT1 I really could care less. Most arent making over 400hp with there LS1's and are clueless.The same people that talk **** about a turbo supra after it walks them merely due to the fact its japanese. I no longer have an opti (24 x conversion) so the main negative aspect of the LTX is gone. This motor was built for around 950hp.
Regarding what people think of the LT1 I really could care less. Most arent making over 400hp with there LS1's and are clueless.The same people that talk **** about a turbo supra after it walks them merely due to the fact its japanese. I no longer have an opti (24 x conversion) so the main negative aspect of the LTX is gone. This motor was built for around 950hp.
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02-09-2010, 02:03 AM
#8
LOL my thoughts exactly! There is nothing I hate more than arrogant LS1 owners. It sounds like the only thing I would really gain with a LQ9 is the unique aspect. Probably more wise to stick with what I have as it will easily make around 900hp. Thanks for the opinions!
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02-09-2010, 10:18 AM
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LOL my thoughts exactly! There is nothing I hate more than arrogant LS1 owners. It sounds like the only thing I would really gain with a LQ9 is the unique aspect. Probably more wise to stick with what I have as it will easily make around 900hp. Thanks for the opinions!
02-09-2010, 10:36 AM
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ya now days a good built lt1 car is more unique than an ls car. ya it might be a little harder and more expensive to be at the same place as an ls, but go to any track and what is a majority of cars? ls cars! my car lt car is goin thru some changes, should be really exciting when its done!
02-09-2010, 10:43 AM
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ya now days a good built lt1 car is more unique than an ls car. ya it might be a little harder and more expensive to be at the same place as an ls, but go to any track and what is a majority of cars? ls cars! my car lt car is goin thru some changes, should be really exciting when its done!
What do you have planned for your car?
02-09-2010, 12:42 PM
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im not sure if ur familar with my build but it was 385, ported stock head, stock lt1 intake, 8.5 cr, A2A, and pump gas. put down 670 at 14 psi thru a th400 and went 6.2@112 in the 1/8 leaving pretty easy. all with a s475! now im putting on ported afr 220's, le ported lt4 intake, 9.5 cr, A2W, more boost, boost controller, and race gas! im wanting to hit 900 at the wheels with this turbo, and MAYBE 5.8x's, we'll see. but after i max it out im sending it to dr turbo to upgrade it to an 88mm.
and dont get me wrong, if i was starting from scratch, no car or anything, i would prolly go ls. but since my car is an lt car (my first car so ill never get rid of it) im sticking with lt. im still hoping dart will come out with that ltX block! but a lt can make plenty of power!
and dont get me wrong, if i was starting from scratch, no car or anything, i would prolly go ls. but since my car is an lt car (my first car so ill never get rid of it) im sticking with lt. im still hoping dart will come out with that ltX block! but a lt can make plenty of power!
02-09-2010, 02:18 PM
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Not saying you can't make good power with an LT1, only saying if you plan to run with the big dogs, lose the LT1.
Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with what you have. Look at Taner, he has been beating the **** out of the LT platform for years and is one of the fastest 6-speed cars anywhere. They can be plenty of fun for sure.
Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with what you have. Look at Taner, he has been beating the **** out of the LT platform for years and is one of the fastest 6-speed cars anywhere. They can be plenty of fun for sure.
02-09-2010, 10:53 PM
#14
Not saying you can't make good power with an LT1, only saying if you plan to run with the big dogs, lose the LT1.
Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with what you have. Look at Taner, he has been beating the **** out of the LT platform for years and is one of the fastest 6-speed cars anywhere. They can be plenty of fun for sure.
Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with what you have. Look at Taner, he has been beating the **** out of the LT platform for years and is one of the fastest 6-speed cars anywhere. They can be plenty of fun for sure.
4SFEDZ- Sounds like a mean setup. I built my LT1 off of what jose over at forced inductions did. I had a 76GTS but decided to sell it for a PT88 after going to a stalled auto. I'm running 8.5-1 and plan on running up to 20psi with meth and a A2W. Should be interesting. The LTX is impressive after you ditch the opti, which i just did. Jose made 1,012 rwhp if I remember correctly in his 97 SS(383). I know the trend is "LS is the best" but the LTX is still a very capable engine. Most of the guys that talk **** about them have bolt on LS cars
. I just f-ing laugh at some of the things they say. Of course with any crowd these are usually the **** heads that know everything and need to be punched in the mouth. I have met quite a few very down to earth LS guys running around here in phoenix. Guess they arent all bad! lol Last edited by 355TurboLT1; 02-09-2010 at 11:47 PM.
02-10-2010, 01:24 AM
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I hear its weak these days. Seems the F-body crowd here is dwindling. Maybe I don't pay enough attention. I haven't been out to speedworld or firebird raceway in a while. I need to get back into the scene although Im not big into car clubs, just meets, random stuff.
I was just thinking the other day its been so long since I have seen a clean well done LT1 camaro. Even clean LS cars around here are few and far between. Coming on here is the only motivation for getting my car done. Then I come up with crazy *** ideas like swapping in a LQ9!
I need to just finish this sob. The dash conversion and 4L80 are taking up enough time.
I was just thinking the other day its been so long since I have seen a clean well done LT1 camaro. Even clean LS cars around here are few and far between. Coming on here is the only motivation for getting my car done. Then I come up with crazy *** ideas like swapping in a LQ9!
I need to just finish this sob. The dash conversion and 4L80 are taking up enough time. 