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Old 05-06-2010, 08:48 PM
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Arrow Yes another "Help me get to 1000+ hp"

I'm needing some advice. I want your opinions, good or bad.

I'm wanting to reach the 1000hp Goal. I know for sure that I want to use a Procharger to help me get there.
What I'm not sure of is the cubic inches I'll need as a platform... 370, 402, 408, 414, 427, 440, 454 or none of the above?
I would like to be able to use pump gas if at all possible and I would like this bad boy to be "streetable" able to drive on the street (without having to worry about being stranded) Now I know this thing isn't gonna be able to drive cross country or anything but I would like to be able to take it downtown on the weekends and not have to worry about how I'm gonna get home.
So, that being said, what would some of you more experienced guys choose to go with?
Would you go smaller cubes and boost the **** out of it, go bigger cubes with less boost or go big cubes and big boost?

Thanks in advance

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Please don't bring up the fact that you "think" I should run turbos or spray a big shot on it. If I wanted opinions on that I would have asked.
I know that I want to use a Procharger and I know that I can get 1000+ doing so, I've seen it done first hand.
What I'm wanting to know is can I get the same power level only a little more "tame" for the streets.
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You should research the one you've seen first hand. Another member has done it with a 408 and F1 Procharger. I can't remember which F1 it is or if he runs on 93oct.

For reliability and streetability you should use bigger cubes instead of more psi.
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Yeah, well there is one problem with that, a 592ci Big Block with an F3 Procharger isn't exactly streetable lol.
I was leaning more towards a 440 with an F2 Procharger. Do you guys think that would be a good combination to reach my goals?
I know there is alot more that will come into play... Heads, Cam, Intake etc. but for a good starting point?
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are you wanting 1,000 fwhp or 1,000 rwhp ? m6 or auto ? 1,000 fwhp will be quite a bit easier than 1,000 rw.
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LS2 402 with F1A
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a fellow GTO owner has a 427 w/f1c that has over 1000 hp at rear wheels through a 4l80e & IRS diff- and it's streetable. I'm building a LSX454 with 2 stages of nitrous that should put me in the same ballapark
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Yes 1000rwhp or 1000 engine hp. 1000 engine hp likely a d1sc and 402 /408..
1000rwhp then for sure up on the blower and bigger say 427 LSX can't be bad idea either. Keep in mind that over 1000 engine hp is pretty much for braggin rights only and not really hookable on the street.
I am shooting for maybe a 1000rwhp dyno this season but realistically likely run around at maybe 800rwhp see how things work out. Being turbo I can ramp in my boost. Super of course like ati makes boost by rpm so thats similar to one form of ramping.
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I would be plenty happy with 1000hp at the Flywheel. I'll probably be goin with a built TH400 or something similar.
I would like to get the most longevity out of this engine as possible so I was thinking maybe bigger cubes with less boost but I'm a newb and don't know much when it comes to FI.
Just want opinions from people with some experience and know what they are talking about.
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Originally Posted by InsaneDomestics
I would be plenty happy with 1000hp at the Flywheel. I'll probably be goin with a built TH400 or something similar.
I would like to get the most longevity out of this engine as possible so I was thinking maybe bigger cubes with less boost but I'm a newb and don't know much when it comes to FI.
Just want opinions from people with some experience and know what they are talking about.
Take a look at the build we did at the old shop at this link, where we started with a new LS2 block. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=29 We used a ProCharger F-1A, and it is making 864 rwhp (Mustang Chassis Dyno) at only 12.5 psi of boost. Bob
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Nice numbers.
So getting the same amount of power, if not more, would be fairly easy with a 408? I really don't want to spend $2k on an LSX Block for the bigger cubes if not necessary.
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Originally Posted by InsaneDomestics
Nice numbers.
So getting the same amount of power, if not more, would be fairly easy with a 408? I really don't want to spend $2k on an LSX Block for the bigger cubes if not necessary.
Yes indeed, my Z28that I sold has a 408. Bob+

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That's crazy...
How much power was it pushin? What all did you have done to it?
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Originally Posted by InsaneDomestics
That's crazy...
How much power was it pushin? What all did you have done to it?
We never got good dyno numbers due to the Powerglide's 5000 stall converter.
Here is a link to info about the build of the car, from the old shop. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=12 Bob
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Not trying to hijack your thread but here is what I'm putting together. I'm looking for similar results as well, 1000HP on pump gas and drive it whenever I want. We are using a hydraulic roller cam as well so we don't have to worry valve lash, etc... FYI, we are using a F2 instead of the F1C as I just forgot to change the title. We should make 1500HP FWHP when set on kill with race gas and increased timing. Good luck and feel free to ask questions.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...arger-f1c.html
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408 LQ9 or LS2 with a set of ETP or all pro heads, F1C procharger. Gonna need a badass fuel system too. What about spraying methanol? Is that an option? It'll help get you there.
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Originally Posted by blue00ZZleeper
408 LQ9 or LS2 with a set of ETP or all pro heads, F1C procharger. Gonna need a badass fuel system too. What about spraying methanol? Is that an option? It'll help get you there.
Nah, I really don't want to have to mess with meth or anything else unless it's absolutely necessary.
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Well let me say this, it would be worth looking into. I run meth in my DD and dont have any problems lol
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i have to agree with some of the people that have posted, i think you will need at least a F1 blower and a 40x..But with good tunning, and a well executed plan of attack i think it could be done with a 370..
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Would this not be much cheaper/reliable with a turbo?
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Take a look at some of KP's old threads. Kevin made it into the 8's with a ProCharger D-1SC and then a little deeper into the 8's with an F-1A, with a fairly heavy T/A. Bob
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