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Old 06-13-2010, 07:53 PM
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thinking my turbo will be to small for my goals i wanted to see if i could push my little 346 into the 850 wheel range but im beggining to think thatll itll be to small for that...

its a fully forged 346 with afr 225s and a precision t76gts with a .96 ar exhaust its through a 6 speed and a 12 bolt with 3.90s i was planning on running 16-20 pounds but dont know if itll make it to that

if so about what will it max at
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...ame-motor.html

with a 78GTS, he made 811 at the wheels on a 355 LT1. 850 will probably be maxing it out on an ls1
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I wish I still had my pt76-gts. Were are you putting it, front or rear?
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Front mount... Ill trade you!
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Id really like to see a compressor map of the 76mm to see where it makes majority of its airflow at. I know they can flow alot of air but the problem is the v8 pulls so much air the pressure ratio stays on the low side of the turbo and alot of big turbos dont flow well at low pressure ratios. I think youll be ok for 750-800hp though.
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Even with the .96 ar?
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The turbine a/r is fine, its the actual flow rate of the compressor that could limit the power. Heres a picture of a compressor map and ill try to explain what i mean.



This is of a different turbo but its just to show the effeciency. Lets say it takes a 347c.i. 10psi to have 600hp, that roughly means you need 60 lbs of air @ 10psi. The pressure ratio would be, the pressure you want to run + 14.7 which is absolute pressure then divide by 14.7. So it would be 10 + 14.7 = 24.7 / 14.7 = 1.68. Look at where 1.68 pressure ratio is on the map and see where 60 lbs of air is. With this turbo you will be almost out of the compressor effeciency with just 10psi and 600hp. And thats with a turbo rated to 800hp.
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I vote PT88!

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i think some people have come close to 850rw on the t76, if you have one already, take it up to the limit before you sell it, might be all you need, no sense in wasting money.
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Approaching your stated power level that 76GTS will be spinning its guts out. Back pressure will be through the roof. I would sell it and look into another unit. A pt88 might be worth looking into.
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http://gonicd.com/camaroindex.html

He was a t56 before and made over 800 on 16 psi. He has a dyno sheet on the web page.
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Originally Posted by caMnaro
http://gonicd.com/camaroindex.html

He was a t56 before and made over 800 on 16 psi. He has a dyno sheet on the web page.
this is actually the car i was basing my setup off of... i wish he would chime in and tell me if his is close to maxxing out on 16psi? and the specs of his turbo
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Originally Posted by 02anti_vnm
this is actually the car i was basing my setup off of... i wish he would chime in and tell me if his is close to maxxing out on 16psi? and the specs of his turbo
Just PM him NicD
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look in to the borg warner s4 series
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Trade you my s475 Hasn't been run yet.
BW 75mm compressor 83mm turbine with the 1.10 housing



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