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It may not be a bottleneck, but it won't cool like a quality core. That is the call you have to make, higher IATs can be defeated with meth/water as well. When I run C16, I pull the fuse for the meth...and the IATs get to about 125 at the end of the 1/4. With meth they are in the 90's, max.
It may not be a bottleneck, but it won't cool like a quality core. That is the call you have to make, higher IATs can be defeated with meth/water as well. When I run C16, I pull the fuse for the meth...and the IATs get to about 125 at the end of the 1/4. With meth they are in the 90's, max.
Mike
Not that aux. inj isn't great and all... but Water/meth won't drop your IAT's to anywhere near what the sensor is reporting. I wish it did... no one would need an intercooler if those numbers represented your actual charge temps! Saturated IAT sensors shouldn’t' be used as any kind of tuning tool.
Not that aux. inj isn't great and all... but Water/meth won't drop your IAT's to anywhere near what the sensor is reporting. I wish it did... no one would need an intercooler if those numbers represented your actual charge temps! Saturated IAT sensors shouldn’t' be used as any kind of tuning tool.
I plan on doing 100% meth and 93 pump gas. I want to go A2W but the price of my build is really getting up there. I'm thinking that i can safely hit my goals with the ebay 4" core and maybe switch to A2W later. I understand doing it right the first time but A2A is just so much less expensive and i want the car built at this point haha
I don't really think that's a good point. Marks 170+ trap car has TONS of turbo. I'd bet good money he is seeing a healthy amount of pressure drop across that core... he just has enough turbo that isn't not a big concern.
Jumping up to the Treadstone equivalent of the common 12x32x4 china core Mark uses made a huge difference on my setup. Bet it would on his too!
marks combo is almost a mirror image of mine but i have slightly better stuff than him. matt and i agree my 70 extra horse come from these things. but you would think a holley hi ram, FAST throttle body and upgraded treadstone intercooler would make alot more than an extra 70 horse over a stock ls1 intake, throttle body, and **** CX ebay intercooler once again matt is proving that you dont NEED high dollar **** to have fun (spending money on my car and tinkering is therapeutic for me).
marks combo is almost a mirror image of mine but i have slightly better stuff than him. matt and i agree my 70 extra horse come from these things. but you would think a holley hi ram, FAST throttle body and upgraded treadstone intercooler would make alot more than an extra 70 horse over a stock ls1 intake, throttle body, and **** CX ebay intercooler once again matt is proving that you dont NEED high dollar **** to have fun (spending money on my car and tinkering is therapeutic for me).
I agree, the $/HP ratio on "fancy" intakes and Intercoolers isn't there on a big cube low rpm engine. But that doesn't mean it's not holding back some good power.
There are also a few "china" IC's with the same dimensions and different cores. My core was a tube and fin design 32x12x4. With a 4.8 I couldn't make over 4psi even on the T-brake. Swapped in the TS intercooler and went from an ls1 to an LS6 intake and I could make all the boost I want on the T-brake.
As Mark has shown us, spending a little more on the larger engine and turbo allows you to get by with much cheaper top end parts.
I agree, the $/HP ratio on "fancy" intakes and Intercoolers isn't there on a big cube low rpm engine. But that doesn't mean it's not holding back some good power.
There are also a few "china" IC's with the same dimensions and different cores. My core was a tube and fin design 32x12x4. With a 4.8 I couldn't make over 4psi even on the T-brake. Swapped in the TS intercooler and went from an ls1 to an LS6 intake and I could make all the boost I want on the T-brake.
As Mark has shown us, spending a little more on the larger engine and turbo allows you to get by with much cheaper top end parts.
same treadstone i have. its heavy but i love it. thought about going A/W but honestly the car makes too much power as it is and im sick of changing ****. really want to go bang some mid 8s and then rub it in my haters faces haha.
Time for an update. I put a 1.80 straight cut Glide in Leroy. This weekend I made my first test hits. I set a personal best, in terms of mph and ET, on significantly less boost than was required before with the 80E. Once we get the 60 foot dialed in, I expect even larger improvements. Here is a video of the best pass to date:
So, what made you finally decide to go with the glide, and how do you like it?
The 80E was finally crapping out. I love the Glide, it has such a direct and aggressive feel. I am certain this car will be at least 5 tenths faster on equivalent boost with this transmission.
I'm guessing you don't do too much freeway cruising in Leroy, but how bad does it feel to cruise without the OD?
I have yet to really test it. However, I am taking Leroy to Tx2k this year again, and I will be gaptizing people on the interstate. This thing rolls like the Illinois and Central. All those Supra guys that want to do high rolls are going to get punished, with extreme prejudice. LOL.
12-01-2014, 10:11 AM
once again matt is proving that you dont NEED high dollar **** to have fun (spending money on my car and tinkering is therapeutic for me).
