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Old 08-01-2012, 08:44 AM
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Default Valve float 52-5300 rpm. Than no issue.

Got my car tuned on Sunday. There is an issue at around 5200 ish it sounds/acts like valve float then seems to push through it and rev on up just fine.

Tuner said everything was perfect. 11.4-11.9 A/F, 18-20 deg timing. Never did anything funny until that 1 rpm. He had also mentioned there were issues with harmonics that at 1 rpm or (pitch) they can act like a guitar string plucked to hard and almost go flimsy for a second than the pitch or rpm changes and it can handle the load again.

I just always assumed if the springs couldnt handle the load they couldnt handle it past a certain psi or rpm. Not just miss for a second and keep going no issues.

I figured the LS9 springs would hold 10-11 psi seeing how a zr1 gets 10 psi stock. I already have some Patriot Duals for it I was really just wondered if anyone else has experienced something similar. I am worried changing the springs may not fix it.
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What cam and heads? are you sure your valve train geometry is correct?
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LS9 springs are on titanium intake valves that weigh 73 grams and hollow stem exhaust valves that weigh 71 grams. If you have stock 100 gram or heavier valves it will be much harder for those springs to keep everything under control.
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Put some real springs in it. ^ Brian Tooley can hook you up.
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OP to answer your question, yes what you are experiencing is a very real situation. We list the frequencies in our catalog for a reason. Every engine at ceritian RPM's create a frequency. the object is to find a spring who's natural frequency is outside of the main operating frequency of the engine while maintianing correct loads and rates to control the valves.

Switching to a different spring will solve your issue. Now what spring you want to run is your choice.
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Already have some Patriots I bought off the tuner. I will put those in as soon as I find a LS spring compressor.
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Which cam are you running? I'm asking because I have the same springs and wonder if I will run into the same issue as I turn the boost up...
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Originally Posted by 1sick-Z

I figured the LS9 springs would hold 10-11 psi seeing how a zr1 gets 10 psi stock.
Biggest difference (other than what Brian mentioned) is backpressure.

LS9 isn't trying to close an exhaust valve against double boost pressure.
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Originally Posted by 1999Black_Z28
Which cam are you running? I'm asking because I have the same springs and wonder if I will run into the same issue as I turn the boost up...
Won't know till you try. if you have different rockers, heads, pushrods, lifters, motor mounts, drive shaft, transmissions ect, ect, you may not get it or you may get it at a different RPM.
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
LS9 springs are on titanium intake valves that weigh 73 grams and hollow stem exhaust valves that weigh 71 grams. If you have stock 100 gram or heavier valves it will be much harder for those springs to keep everything under control.
I believe he has LSA heads.
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Originally Posted by Detroitmuscle
I believe he has LSA heads.
Do those have hollow stem LS3 intake valves? I'm pretty sure they have the standard 90 gram solid stem exhaust valves.



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