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do you have to run a waste gate with a turbo

Old 08-16-2012, 08:09 AM
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I know in almost all case you need a waste gate to keep boost in check for what ever you are shooting to run, but can you control the boost with a eboost2 controller with the BOV only on the cooled side, deleting the waste gate?
If you can delete the waste gate will it hurt the turbo by over spinning it? say 7000rpm with no gate.
Will the turbo eat itself from centrifugal weight. lol the reason I ask.. I built my hot side got it all done and wrapped and it looks so sexy in tell I noticed there is no waste gate plumb into it
any input would be nice
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you would overspin the turbo without a doubt trying to control it that way
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Only if you want to blow **** up
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is this a joke?
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Originally Posted by 9sectruck
I know in almost all case you need a waste gate to keep boost in check for what ever you are shooting to run, but can you control the boost with a eboost2 controller with the BOV only on the cooled side, deleting the waste gate?
If you can delete the waste gate will it hurt the turbo by over spinning it? say 7000rpm with no gate.
Will the turbo eat itself from centrifugal weight. lol the reason I ask.. I built my hot side got it all done and wrapped and it looks so sexy in tell I noticed there is no waste gate plumb into it
any input would be nice
Yes you need a wastegate. Turbo will survive maybe 1 pull , if that.
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no jack *** this is not a joke (95bowtie)
make your stupid comments in your own f----- thread not mine
simple ? simple answer.
thanks for the input for that guys that shared
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
you would overspin the turbo without a doubt trying to control it that way

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I would be curious what the rpm of the turbine would be if you didn't run a wastegate. I be that sucker is zinging at 6500 engine rpms. But yeah, probably would explode the turbo.
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funny story,

We hooked up the lines to the wastegate wrong one time when we were dynoing the Fairmont(we had just installed a heavier spring to get the most boost out of the Masterpower t70) and it was almost as if there was not wastegate on it.

It made like 18lbs and mid 5oos on a mustang dyno, then we realized the boost was plumbed to the top of the gate only, effectively holding it closed the whole time.

It the old days there was no wastegate, but the turbine housing was sized for max boost pressure at max engine speed. Sized to not run off the map at max engine speed and power.

These would not spool very fast at all, but worked for the application( ie airplane, train, boat, diesel etc.)

I wouldn't recommend you doing a turbo without a gate on it but technically you don't need a gate. TRUE.
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thanks for the input guys, lol just cant believe I forgot the damn waste gate, I guess lil more cuttin and fabing and it will be done again..
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Without a wastegate ALL of the exhaust would be moving through the turbo, not good. And I don't think a boost controller will operate a BOV, their operation/purpose is essentially the opposite of a wastegate.
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Originally Posted by 9sectruck
thanks for the input guys, lol just cant believe I forgot the damn waste gate, I guess lil more cuttin and fabing and it will be done again..
Did you really forget to put the wastegate on the car? Whoops, lol.
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lol yep,,, the hotside looks real clean with out one.
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weld your wastegate right on the turbine housing.

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thats pretty slick, simple and clean
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You should put a cut out on that downpipe
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That does look slick
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Wow lol...can't control it any better than that
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Lololol
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What's differant from no gate and closing the gate with co2 on race cars?

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