*** Engine Carnage Pics ***
02-19-2013, 12:49 AM
#1
*** Engine Carnage Pics *** Well it's not an LSX but it is turbo'd and I could use some input. This motor came out of my 03 cobra with 20psi on 93+meth at 8.5:1 compression diamond pistons.
It let go at the track in october and I fonally got it torn down to find the entire drivers side looking like this. Id like to hear some input on why it let go on this bank only(passenger side was fine).
The motor is being dropped of at Race proven Motorsports today to get rebuilt with 10:1 compression Wiseco pistons and stock rods and crank.
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It let go at the track in october and I fonally got it torn down to find the entire drivers side looking like this. Id like to hear some input on why it let go on this bank only(passenger side was fine).
The motor is being dropped of at Race proven Motorsports today to get rebuilt with 10:1 compression Wiseco pistons and stock rods and crank.
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02-19-2013, 11:17 AM
#5
See this with the GTP cars when someone decides to go from stock to 3.0 Pulley. Knock sensors fight it a bit but can only hold it off for so long. IIRC the Cobra Mod motor doesn't have any knock sensors.
Other side doesn't have anything similar to it? Only thing I could think of affecting that side is fueling or something dropped off.
I had a lean spike, went to 12.5 afr @ 15psi. Had 8.9 cr. Turns out boost switch that turned meth on failed. BOOOOOOOM! LOL Bent rods too. Trending Topics
02-19-2013, 04:47 PM
#10
The engine went lean for a period of time with the pistons being melted,then the engine detonated causing the broke pistons.
Check all the injectors and fuel pressure,
i had a faulty wide band that was reading a point richer then it really was and did the same thing to my bbc
Check all the injectors and fuel pressure,
i had a faulty wide band that was reading a point richer then it really was and did the same thing to my bbc
02-19-2013, 09:35 PM
#12
Dropped the motor off today and he said the block isnt gonna be fixable either, and thanks to the stock iron block it cant be reseleeved so I have to pick up another block. So I found a Teksid(aluminum version of the cobra block) that will hold well over 1000hp and drop 80lbs off the front end.
When he pulled the shortblock apart he is going to let me know what he thinks caused the damage.
I dont think it was the meth as the activation light and a/f both looked fine during the pass. I do think it had too much timing in it though, just stumped by the drivers side only damage.
When he pulled the shortblock apart he is going to let me know what he thinks caused the damage.
I dont think it was the meth as the activation light and a/f both looked fine during the pass. I do think it had too much timing in it though, just stumped by the drivers side only damage.
02-20-2013, 09:34 AM
#13
Just curious if you had it dyno'd with making timing changes? There is a point of diminishing returns where you can keep adding timing but it really isn't doing much and can actually start taking power the other direction. Like I said, common issue with the GTP world when people dump too much timing on them. One of the shops with their drag car use to run insane amounts of timing (10+ over the norm) because they were able to squeeze out an extra 5~ whp after a point. Motor would typically only last a few passes, pulled timing back and never had an issue.
Be sure to post up what the shop says, like you said, is strange it was only one side.
Be sure to post up what the shop says, like you said, is strange it was only one side.
02-20-2013, 10:11 PM
#14
Just curious if you had it dyno'd with making timing changes? There is a point of diminishing returns where you can keep adding timing but it really isn't doing much and can actually start taking power the other direction. Like I said, common issue with the GTP world when people dump too much timing on them. One of the shops with their drag car use to run insane amounts of timing (10+ over the norm) because they were able to squeeze out an extra 5~ whp after a point. Motor would typically only last a few passes, pulled timing back and never had an issue.
Be sure to post up what the shop says, like you said, is strange it was only one side.
Be sure to post up what the shop says, like you said, is strange it was only one side.
02-21-2013, 06:37 AM
#15
You have to remember that unless you have a EGT in each exhaust runner you won't know if one of the cyl is lean.
You don't get even airflow through most intake manifolds.. one or several will be richer or leaner... The best way is to EGT each runner and adjust each cyl as it's own engine...
Your Wideband readings will only show the Mass of exhaust from all cyl... you'll never see that lean one coming till it's too late.
As one of the other guy's mentioned a bit less timing would have prevented it... As it could have kept that lean cyl from detonating.
Conservitive is best for not hurting parts.
I've had a Meth/alky kit sitting on the shelf for several years.. I can't bring myself to put it on. Seen too many failures.
~Scott
You don't get even airflow through most intake manifolds.. one or several will be richer or leaner... The best way is to EGT each runner and adjust each cyl as it's own engine...
Your Wideband readings will only show the Mass of exhaust from all cyl... you'll never see that lean one coming till it's too late.
As one of the other guy's mentioned a bit less timing would have prevented it... As it could have kept that lean cyl from detonating.
Conservitive is best for not hurting parts.
I've had a Meth/alky kit sitting on the shelf for several years.. I can't bring myself to put it on. Seen too many failures.
~Scott
02-27-2013, 09:59 PM
#19
I am going with Wiseco coated pistons this time per what Race Proven Motorsports recommended. They put them in some huge power builds.
No fuel cut for sure based on the datalogs the injectors were firing the whole time.
