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Old 04-14-2014, 10:24 AM
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Ok so I have a 1998 trans am 6speed car with a maf. I have a single turbo setup and a Ms4 cam with valve springs and push rods, new injectors but still need a fuel pump. I have been seeing people change to sd. My question is can I make good power off the Maf I'm looking for 600rwhp and also what lph pump would be good do I need to run two of them? Thanks for your guys help. I'm trying not to change wiring harness or computer but if I have to can I use a different computer and just repin the harness? Thanks guys!
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Your tuner can swap to speed density. No wiring or computer swap. I don't know much about the 98 ecu because its a little different but it should work. If you do have to switch computer you will have to switch harness as well since the 98 is different.

For pump, you can run a single walbro 400 series in the stock bucket.
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Lots of info on the site regarding the 98 ECU...you can repin and use the 0411 ECU (will need fuel segment swap for the fuel gauge to work) or you can use your 98 ECU with a HP Tuners 2 bar SD custom operating system...good to about 14 psi.
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Well what do you guys think about running the Maf and not changing anything and just tune it. Is the hp tuner a good investment?
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Originally Posted by ls1_Bobo
Well what do you guys think about running the Maf and not changing anything and just tune it. Is the hp tuner a good investment?
I personally would get ahold of NicD and drag your car to Arizona and let him tune it.
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Originally Posted by ls1_Bobo
Well what do you guys think about running the Maf and not changing anything and just tune it. Is the hp tuner a good investment?
Its very little work and a lot of benefit to disable the MAF. The hardest part is literally just removing it from the car.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Its very little work and a lot of benefit to disable the MAF. The hardest part is literally just removing it from the car.
Ok thanks for the help guys
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wouldnt you have to change the map sensor if you delete the maf?
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Originally Posted by munn79ta
wouldnt you have to change the map sensor if you delete the maf?
This is sort of a requirement for forced induction anyway.
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Originally Posted by SM105K
I personally would get ahold of NicD and drag your car to Arizona and let him tune it.
For folks like me...no tuning expertise...find a local tuner with FI LS experience and let them help you decide; this will support their ability to tune your car. I will stay out of the MAF vs SD debate but my great internet attained wisdom says SD lol.
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just was throwing it out there.
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98 computer here, still running a maf. Ls7 maf in a 4" tube with an airflow straightener and the car drives great. I did have to scale the tune but it's working. I plan to run CLMAF exclusively.
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98 computer here, still running a maf. Ls7 maf in a 4" tube with an airflow straightener and the car drives great. I did have to scale the tune but it's working. I plan to run CLMAF exclusively.
see this is more the answer i was looking for when i started this. so the ls7 maf is better did it plug right in?
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Sounds to me like you just want to keep the MAF. I told you that getting rid of it is as easy as just disabling it with HPTuners or having your tuner do it for you.. Then someone else suggest spending money on a different MAF and that's the answer you were looking for.
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Originally Posted by ls1_Bobo
see this is more the answer i was looking for when i started this. so the ls7 maf is better did it plug right in?
Spectre makes a 4" tube that is made for the LS7 MAF cartridge. Saxon makes a honeycomb screen that can be installed in the 4" tube and greatly increases the accuracy of the MAF reading, and there is a company on Ebay that makes an adapter harness to mate the LS7 MAF connector to the stock MAF harness plug....so yes it was plug and play. You do have to retune the MAF transfer function though.

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Sounds to me like you just want to keep the MAF. I told you that getting rid of it is as easy as just disabling it with HPTuners or having your tuner do it for you.. Then someone else suggest spending money on a different MAF and that's the answer you were looking for.
Do you tune or just post stuff you've read online? Tuning a speed density car with a 2 or a 3 bar map sensor is not as simple as unplugging the MAF. It requires significant time, including a custom operating system so the car adjusts for changes in IAT's and weather changes. For a 98 PCM, if the person doesn't want to put a new PCM and repin or replace the harness, I think this MAF is a viable alternative if tuned correctly.
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It's personal preference. You can keep the MAF and make over 1000whp if you are so inclinded. It's been done.
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I can't seem to get a straight answer or I'm just not understanding I don't want to change my harness to run sd if I don't does the intake have a spot for it? And if I can run the Maf then why the Hell not
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And I'm not looking to spend money on a pcm and redoing the harness. I have a buddy that was telling me my **** is junk and won't make power and have to update everything. Maf is what I want to run and now that I got the answer I was looking for Maf is what I'm gonna run.



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