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Old 01-09-2015, 12:33 PM
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My mods are in my signature. I am going to be installing the D1SC Procharger with the dual race intercoolers, along with a new fuel pump and a strange 12 bolt and soon after Transmission. I have no BIG HP goals over 700hp. I do not want to add meth injection either. My question is will the engine be fine with the stick 8 rib charger power or will I need to change things? Thanks, Jeremy.
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Whats the compression with prc heads heads ?

Whats the specs of the cam ?

Why are you against meth injection ?
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Whats the compression with prc heads heads ?

Whats the specs of the cam ?

Why are you against meth injection ?
231/234 .643"/.598" 111 LSA. I do not know the head compression and I wasn't sure if meth injection would be a big deal to install and deal with.
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Meth injection is not hard to install or deal with. It only comes on when you are in boost, so its not like you go through gallons of the stuff. I would also recommend looking in to it, as it does help with cooling and fueling.

The cam is not ideal and you will be pushing some hard earned boost right down the exhaust pipe. I would want to swap it out for a more blower friendly cam if it were me.

Find out the cc size of the cobustion chambers in those heads and what gasket thickness you have so we'll know what the compression of your motor is.
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You should go fmic if you can swing it. Especially if you want to stay away from meth.
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You should go fmic if you can swing it. Especially if you want to stay away from meth.
Sorry to sound dumb but what's the difference?
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Wayyy more efficient.. And yes swap to a blower specd cam for sure!! Sell the other one in the for sale forum
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While that cam you have may not be the best option, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't use it since it's already installed. As for the FMIC, yes, I would definitely do that. You can find them on e-bay for cheap, or you can comb the classified section on here, as they are pretty plentiful. I would also go with meth injection. You first need to find out what your compression is. If it's fairly high, you're going to have to have it, or convert over to e85.
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Honestly, I would do both the FMIC and meth. The added safety of running cool will allow you to run more boost and timing safely. If you HAD to choose between the FMIC and the meth, I would honestly go with the meth injection. It will cool your IAT's more than a large FMIC will, and it won't rob you of a pound or two of boost like an FMIC will, but again, most ideal would be running both.

Back to more of your original question, if you are looking for 700 RWHP, I think the 12 ribbed belt will be a wiser choice than the 8 ribbed one.
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Originally Posted by SpeedJunkee
Honestly, I would do both the FMIC and meth. The added safety of running cool will allow you to run more boost and timing safely. If you HAD to choose between the FMIC and the meth, I would honestly go with the meth injection. It will cool your IAT's more than a large FMIC will, and it won't rob you of a pound or two of boost like an FMIC will, but again, most ideal would be running both.

Back to more of your original question, if you are looking for 700 RWHP, I think the 12 ribbed belt will be a wiser choice than the 8 ribbed one.
Well I was just not wanting to go over 700. Meth sounds like the unanimous decision along with front mount intercooler so I appreciate the help guys. I am a total noob at it all so Thanks for bearing with the questions!
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OP, checkout a guy on here with the username "The Alchamist". He has an over 700 rwhp D1SC setup with a FMIC and meth I believe. His cam is a NA cam and it works fine on his setup and has allowed him to make over 700 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by SpeedJunkee
Honestly, I would do both the FMIC and meth. The added safety of running cool will allow you to run more boost and timing safely. If you HAD to choose between the FMIC and the meth, I would honestly go with the meth injection. It will cool your IAT's more than a large FMIC will, and it won't rob you of a pound or two of boost like an FMIC will, but again, most ideal would be running both.

Back to more of your original question, if you are looking for 700 RWHP, I think the 12 ribbed belt will be a wiser choice than the 8 ribbed one.
A 12 rib set-up is not available for the 98-02 LS1 cars. The 98-02 F Body 8 rib ProCharger bracket works just fine though up through 12 psi. Bob
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Originally Posted by Fier23
My mods are in my signature. I am going to be installing the D1SC Procharger with the dual race intercoolers, along with a new fuel pump and a strange 12 bolt and soon after Transmission. I have no BIG HP goals over 700hp. I do not want to add meth injection either. My question is will the engine be fine with the stick 8 rib charger power or will I need to change things? Thanks, Jeremy.
Jeremy, how much boost do you plan on running? Bob
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I don't honestly have a plan on power and boost. I'm so new at it I will just run what is best at first for the car and them mod it out from there. I'm guessing having my stock t56 it won't handle a huge amount but I'm even unsure of that.
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Stock T56's can handle quite a bit. If you aren't out beating on it all day everyday, it should be okay.
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I'm still on my stock T56 I know its on borrowed time so I do try to take it easy. No hard launches, just roll in to the power hard and she'd been living just fine. What clutch do you have ? Any info on your heads ?
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Originally Posted by conan
I'm still on my stock T56 I know its on borrowed time so I do try to take it easy. No hard launches, just roll in to the power hard and she'd been living just fine. What clutch do you have ? Any info on your heads ?
I have a monster stage 2 and Texas speed PRC 2.5 heads.
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Should have gone with the Monster stage 3. Good to 700 rwhp and 700 rwtq. I love mine.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Should have gone with the Monster stage 3. Good to 700 rwhp and 700 rwtq. I love mine.
Well I bought the car as it is and now am just wanting to make it mine.
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Did you buy the heads or did the previous owner. You might have any where from 10:1 compression up to 11.5:1 compression. Need to know the combustion chamber size to do the math.


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