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Old 02-08-2015, 07:23 PM
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quick question for you guys I've got a 2002 ws6 Trans Am last of the breed and I've just installed a 408 completely forged motor 9.1 compression with a f1 X Pro charger kit the new kit, going to run about 15 to 18 lbs , engine has a full return fuel system with a brand new polished aluminum fuel cell in the back along with 100 pound injectors and has a full meth kit on it, has all MSD ignition coil packs the transmission is a fully built t56 all internals are built with a monster clutch stage 4 and has the Hurst full short shifter on it, has a spohn chromoly driveshaft with a Moser 12 bolt rear end with 4.10 gears,all the suspension on the car is BMR there is no stock suspension under the car at all all upgraded car has been lowered with a BMR lowering springs and AQ1 shocks, has an eight-point roll cage and it also,so my question is I have not set the car up with the intake yet and I'm also going to run a nitrous kit on it as well a small shot 75-100 shot on it just trying to get some opinions around to what I should do, are alot of people that say I should do in the edelbrock victor jr set up with the elbow with the nitrous plate between the elbow and then i have alot of people say I should do the fast 102 with a 102 throttle body and put the nitrous plate between the intake and throttle body, i also see the sheet metal intakes but just not sure if they can hold up, so just trying to figure out what I should do, please let others know to get my best set up,,im in alabama and the car is in texas this is the only thing left to do....
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For what god awful reason would you put spray on a motor that has 4 bolt heads and a F1X...
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I would probably just run more boost
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If I were you, I'd be leaving well enough alone. Like the person above said, just run more boost.
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I said it in the other post as well, you don't need spray on an F1-X, and the 4.10 gears are not going to work unless you're running some massive tires.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I said it in the other post as well, you don't need spray on an F1-X, and the 4.10 gears are not going to work unless you're running some massive tires.
Its these questions that make me wonder my some people have or build cars.
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Originally Posted by scottywheels
Its these questions that make me wonder my some people have or build cars.
Dude it was just a damn question theres no need to be an *** about it if you want to be like that then you need to go back to damn school then text a quote because you need to learn how to write and also didnt even answer the question,, so you might want to read the thread before shooting off...
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
I would probably just run more boost
What intake do you think, thats the main question..
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
If I were you, I'd be leaving well enough alone. Like the person above said, just run more boost.
What intake set up do you think that was the main question..
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Originally Posted by sportfisher410
Dude it was just a damn question theres no need to be an *** about it if you want to be like that then you need to go back to damn school then text a quote because you need to learn how to write and also didnt even answer the question,, so you might want to read the thread before shooting off...
lmao because you are asking about running nitrous when u have a blower on the car that will lift the heads right off it already! !! You can make 1100-1200 rw with an f1x, is your car built to handle that including motor? Just run the blower and turn up the boost with a pulley change. I run the holly high ram with 95mm throttle body
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It really comes down to what modifications you're willing to do. You could run a Holley high ram but it will require you do cut the cowl and trim the windshield, you could run a vic jr and just trim the cowl a little with an elbow, or you could run an ls6 and not do any of that. What are your goals? I think that the stock truck intake has gone 7s so any of them can work, some will just be more efficient than others but also require more modification. General consensus seems to be to stay away from FAST for higher boost levels but some had had good luck with it.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I said it in the other post as well, you don't need spray on an F1-X, and the 4.10 gears are not going to work unless you're running some massive tires.
Whats the problem with a 4.10 and an f1x?
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Originally Posted by Blown06
Whats the problem with a 4.10 and an f1x?
If you are maxing the blower out and running a 28 inch tire in the 1/4 and you have an efficient convertor then you should run out if gear
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Originally Posted by Blown06
Whats the problem with a 4.10 and an f1x?
Well, there's a couple things wrong with as I see it. First is with 4.10s, he's going to top out 4th gear at 130mph on a stock height tire. Second, with 4.10s, and making north of 900-1000 ft/lbs of torque, he's going to need a really tall tire, like greater than a 28" tire to get it to hook at all. 4.10 gears are just way too much gear for a car that's only 3600 +/- lbs making that much power.

Just my opinion. I was making 760/700 with a D1 and found 3.73s too much gear and stepped back down to a 3.42, I can't imagine running 4.10s.

Who knows, maybe he's setting it up as an 1/8 mile car, and plans to back half it and put a big tire on the car, but somehow I doubt that.
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I didn't realize he was on such a small tire and a manual trans. but even with a 26" tire and 7000 rpm (no slip t56) he could still run in the upper 130's in 4th gear right?. But yea, that much power with a t56 on a small tire is gonna be a bitch to hook trying to get a good et number.

I was just asking because I run 4.10's in my 4100 truck with an f2 blower. I run a 29.5" tire on my deal and have a converter, so I can't really compare.
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The stock tire height on an f-body is 25.5" so with 4.10s, and that much power, he'd have to shift before the 60' mark, if, IF, he hooked. Now he wants to spray nitrous as well. It's just a bad combo. It sounds like he started as heads cam, which gears make sense, but once you add in an F-1X to the mix, it doesn't.
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Depends what he is going to rev the engine too. But OP if you want to run a single plane your going to start cutting. But the Holley high ram, edelbrock super Vic, or Vic jr or the proflow would all be good intake choices. As far the nitrous, you can, I wouldn't.
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Originally Posted by sportfisher410
i have alot of people say I should do the fast 102 with a 102 throttle body and put the nitrous plate between the intake and throttle body.
That is the worst style intake to use. Cylinders #7 +#8 will already be running lean. Throw nitrous through that intake And you will make it worse. If you must use nitrous, then A carb style intake and plate would be better. The nitrous outlet stinger is an excellent plate.
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I say spray it. Post vids .
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I'm only around 600hp at the flywheel and 4.10's were too much for my car. I was running them years ago with a stock height street tire and hit the rev limiter at 6500rpm before the traps in the 1/8th. It also made first gear seem useless because even on the street as soon as I gave it some throttle I was already shifting in to second gear. I've since switched to 3.73's and they are working much better for both scenarios.


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