Considering Procharger, Do it or hold off?
#43
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The twin intercoolers work quite well for many people, just remember that power is contagious. Bob
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#44
Oh I know all about it. I'm leaning to forced induction versus nitrous for me. I think ultimately it will be cheaper in the long run. How many bottles need to be filled before I get to the price of a supercharger? the supercharger is always on tap. I like your kits you have available. I'm still working out my details on vehicle and motor. Rebuild a 5.3 I have the 5.7 I have or buy a crate engine. Then put it in my Camaro or build my truck I want to do? The struggle is real
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Oh I know all about it. I'm leaning to forced induction versus nitrous for me. I think ultimately it will be cheaper in the long run. How many bottles need to be filled before I get to the price of a supercharger? the supercharger is always on tap. I like your kits you have available. I'm still working out my details on vehicle and motor. Rebuild a 5.3 I have the 5.7 I have or buy a crate engine. Then put it in my Camaro or build my truck I want to do? The struggle is real
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#46
So just ordered some more parts and was able to pick up a few used items for a great price!
- CXracing Black FMIC (31"x12"x3", 3" in/out)
- CXracing Black Universal piping kit
- Pro-Flo black surge valve
- Procharger 2-pc fan shroud
- Spal 16" (straight blade) fan
- Vac/Boost Gauge
- AEM Digital UEGO Wideband AFR Gauge
- Dual pillar pod
- Racetronix 255 w/ hot wire kit
- Siemens Deka 60lb EV1 (about to purchase)
Thoughts...
1. With the 3.0 pulley needed to make 7-8# on my setup, how much do I need to worry about belts slipping or being thrown with that small of a pulley?
2. Snow Performance Stage 1 kit suffice? Is a progressive control necessary? (stage 2)
3. Roughly how much RWHP do you think I will see on 7-8# of boost?
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- CXracing Black FMIC (31"x12"x3", 3" in/out)
- CXracing Black Universal piping kit
- Pro-Flo black surge valve
- Procharger 2-pc fan shroud
- Spal 16" (straight blade) fan
- Vac/Boost Gauge
- AEM Digital UEGO Wideband AFR Gauge
- Dual pillar pod
- Racetronix 255 w/ hot wire kit
- Siemens Deka 60lb EV1 (about to purchase)
Thoughts...
1. With the 3.0 pulley needed to make 7-8# on my setup, how much do I need to worry about belts slipping or being thrown with that small of a pulley?
2. Snow Performance Stage 1 kit suffice? Is a progressive control necessary? (stage 2)
3. Roughly how much RWHP do you think I will see on 7-8# of boost?
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#49
They do have a 4" core but I noticed that after I ordered the 3" one. It's a p1sc. .
Do you think I would be able to safely push 8-10lbs since I will be running a meth kit as well. (100% street car) ...or would an even smaller pulley create more belt issues?
Do you think I would be able to safely push 8-10lbs since I will be running a meth kit as well. (100% street car) ...or would an even smaller pulley create more belt issues?
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One move vote for 80# injectors, I have 60's and I will have to buy twice when I turn up my combo in the future.
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Are you looking in to any meth kits for this build ?
#54
60's will get you to the 700 (+ -) so you'll need to upgrade other things in your setup before your injectors if you turn up the power. I think my 60's are at 70% duty cycle at my power level. These are just things some of us have learned the hard way... I have had to re buy things for my set up more than once
Are you looking in to any meth kits for this build ?
Are you looking in to any meth kits for this build ?
#56
Ok, so I'm wrapping up piecing this kit together and have ran into some serious luck finding great deals on parts back to back.
I am stuck on these last issues with this build.
1. Which fuel pump?? I don't know **** about fuel systems and would really like a plug and play setup without paying the king's ransom.
2. What pulley size for ~8-10psi?? (6 rib) Is there a smaller pulley than a 3.0 (roughly 7psi on my setup, as I've been told) and would I have belt slip issues with that small of a pulley?
3. How much RWHP should I expected with the setup below on 8-10psi?? Number don't mean everything but it would help gauge which fuel pump to go with and whether or not my trans will handle it.
P1SC (~7-10#)
60lb SD injectors
Meth Kit
93 octane
228R 112
243 heads w/ 10.5.1 comp ratio (5 angle VJ, light bowl work)
FAST 102mm Intake w/ 92mm NW throttle body)
Holley EFI Hi-flow fuel rails
FLT levl 4 4L60E w/ ss3600
Thanks for all your help guys!
I am stuck on these last issues with this build.
1. Which fuel pump?? I don't know **** about fuel systems and would really like a plug and play setup without paying the king's ransom.
2. What pulley size for ~8-10psi?? (6 rib) Is there a smaller pulley than a 3.0 (roughly 7psi on my setup, as I've been told) and would I have belt slip issues with that small of a pulley?
3. How much RWHP should I expected with the setup below on 8-10psi?? Number don't mean everything but it would help gauge which fuel pump to go with and whether or not my trans will handle it.
P1SC (~7-10#)
60lb SD injectors
Meth Kit
93 octane
228R 112
243 heads w/ 10.5.1 comp ratio (5 angle VJ, light bowl work)
FAST 102mm Intake w/ 92mm NW throttle body)
Holley EFI Hi-flow fuel rails
FLT levl 4 4L60E w/ ss3600
Thanks for all your help guys!
Last edited by Camarokid327; 04-06-2016 at 04:36 PM.
#57
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Ok, so I'm wrapping up piecing this kit together and have ran into some serious luck finding great deals on parts back to back.
I am stuck on these last issues with this build.
1. Which fuel pump?? I don't know **** about fuel systems and would really like a plug and play setup without paying the king's ransom.
2. What pulley size for ~8-10psi?? (6 rib) Is there a smaller pulley than a 3.0 (roughly 7psi on my setup, as I've been told) and would I have belt slip issues with that small of a pulley?
3. How much RWHP should I expected with the setup below on 8-10psi?? Number don't mean everything but it would help gauge which fuel pump to go with and whether or not my trans will handle it.
P1SC (~7-10#)
60lb SD injectors
Meth Kit
93 octane
228R 112
243 heads w/ 10.5.1 comp ratio (5 angle VJ, light bowl work)
FAST 102mm Intake w/ 92mm NW throttle body)
Holley EFI Hi-flow fuel rails
FLT levl 4 4L60E w/ ss3600
Thanks for all your help guys!
I am stuck on these last issues with this build.
1. Which fuel pump?? I don't know **** about fuel systems and would really like a plug and play setup without paying the king's ransom.
2. What pulley size for ~8-10psi?? (6 rib) Is there a smaller pulley than a 3.0 (roughly 7psi on my setup, as I've been told) and would I have belt slip issues with that small of a pulley?
3. How much RWHP should I expected with the setup below on 8-10psi?? Number don't mean everything but it would help gauge which fuel pump to go with and whether or not my trans will handle it.
P1SC (~7-10#)
60lb SD injectors
Meth Kit
93 octane
228R 112
243 heads w/ 10.5.1 comp ratio (5 angle VJ, light bowl work)
FAST 102mm Intake w/ 92mm NW throttle body)
Holley EFI Hi-flow fuel rails
FLT levl 4 4L60E w/ ss3600
Thanks for all your help guys!
1. The Racetronix LS1 F Body fuel pump is pretty much plug and play. You either have to drop the fuel tank or cut an access hole in the trunk to get to the fuel bucket. One alternative is to go with the ProCharger frame mounted fuel pump, which uses the factory pump to feed it. This pump works quite well and is easier to install. The downside to it is it is more money. http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-3FXFP...-3FXFP-001.htm Either pump should work fine for your combination and power.
2. http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-DPxxx...-ATI-DPxxx.htm
The smallest pulley that ProCharger makes for the six rib is a 3.00, and anything smaller would most likely cause belt slippage. You'll have to keep the belt very tight with the six rib anyway as slippage can be a problem. Using this larger air filter will help as too small of an air filter reduces boost and can cause belt slippage. http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-AF056...AF056I-009.htm
3. I'd say with your combination you'll see an extra 170 to 200 rwhp, it makes for one heck of a difference. Bob
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Thanks for the order, I appreciate it! Bob
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#60
Pcv question
So I've been researching tons of threads regarding on how to route the PCV lines with a catch can for boosted applications but almost all of them are in regards to vented catch cans and not with a closed one (Norris Motorsports) like I have.
Would it be okay to run it as followed:
1. Drive side valve cover to top of catch can. (PCV valve inline)
2. Side of catch can to Intake Manifold
3. Breather Filter Oil Cap
4. Cap passenger side back valve cover stem
5. Cap TB vent stem
6. Front passenger side valve cover stem to small breather filter (rather than to Procharger intake tube)
My biggest questions is whether or not I can just run a small breather filter instead of routing the line to the Procharger intake tube? If so, would I need a one-way check valve in that line?
I made a quick diagram in Paint.
Would it be okay to run it as followed:
1. Drive side valve cover to top of catch can. (PCV valve inline)
2. Side of catch can to Intake Manifold
3. Breather Filter Oil Cap
4. Cap passenger side back valve cover stem
5. Cap TB vent stem
6. Front passenger side valve cover stem to small breather filter (rather than to Procharger intake tube)
My biggest questions is whether or not I can just run a small breather filter instead of routing the line to the Procharger intake tube? If so, would I need a one-way check valve in that line?
I made a quick diagram in Paint.
Last edited by Camarokid327; 05-11-2016 at 07:57 PM.