Turbo system for Rx7 questions
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Turbo system for Rx7 questions
Some basic questions for my up coming first time lsx turbo build
Car
1990 Rx7 FC T2
6.0L / T56 4.10 gear LSD 24in tire
FA500 coil overs
Poly bushings in front
Spherical in rear
Tehls suspension angle kit (70° of steering lock it's nuts)
Completely stock bottom end on the 6.0 I just found out it is a gen 3 motor with gen 4 internals so ..... it sounds like I should EASILY hit my goal of 600whp with everyday reliability and decant longevity I know nothing lasts for ever but if I can get 2 years out of it I'll be happy
So here's my parts list
Engine
2007 Lq4 with gen 4 internals 90k miles
Dual 0.650 BTR spring kit on 317 heads
Street friendly turbo cam maybe 04 ls6 cam
Ls9 gaskets
Stock heads
Stock rod bolts
Stock head bolts
Stock long block pretty much minus springs
Mellings high vol. Oil pump
ATI super damper
Trans
Stage 1 tick perf. 02 Camaro ss t56
Aluminum flywheel
Centerforce DF clutch with arp hardware
Exhaust
AEM wideband
truck manifolds flipped
2.5 in cross over
3.5 in exhaust out of the hood
2 38mm percision wastegates vented to atmosphere
Intake
Truck 88mm maf or what ever mm they are I prefer to use a maf just to create a rock solid tune
Cx racing 31×12×4 intercooler
3in IC piping
50mm tial bov
Snow performance meth inj.
Professional products 96mm intake ported to 102mm and port matched to heads with rails that came with kit
Nick Willias 102mm tb
Turbo
TC76 0.96 AR journal bearing (I have a question at end of post about this)
8an oil feed liNE
10an return
Fuel system
Deka 80lb inj
2 aeromotive fuel pumps 340lph
10 an fuel feed line
C5 Fpr
91 pump gas
Stock Pcm 04 express van on hp tuners it will be getting dyno tuned by a local shop who has done turbo lsx builds before.
My questions are, with this setup can I make 600whp on 12-15psi (on kill mode)? I plan to run as low as 8psi when the Gf Drives it maybe lower depending on how it hook's. How strong are these gen 3 motors with gen 4 internals ? I know what the gen 3 5.3s can do
Will 550-600whp be reliable and bring years of enjoyment to come ? I want to keep the Rpm's 6,000 or under
Do i have to get the piston rings gapped for my goal ?
Please dont reccomend e85 I know.it's awesome but it's not available any where near me ....... or else I totally would
The car weighs 2700lbs it makes 287/319 as it sits right now on a bone stock 6.0 ran 12.9 in the quarter at 119mph on **** tires
Is the turbo I suggested adequate for my application ? I'm open to suggestions
I am wondering if this turbo has a good spooling sound, I really would like a loud spool I know it has alot to do with the intake setup before the turbo and the exhaust and compressor housing but I've heard a 5.3 with a ebay turbo with no filter on and open Dp and the turbo was pretty much silent on 16lbs sounded NA untill the pull was finished
Is there anything you would change or add to my list ? I'm not really on a budget but I don't want to spend money I don't have to (i.e. forged long block etc) unless it's on the fuel system, I've skimped out on a turbo dsm fuel system and it went how you think it went .... bad went lean and took a dump
Car
1990 Rx7 FC T2
6.0L / T56 4.10 gear LSD 24in tire
FA500 coil overs
Poly bushings in front
Spherical in rear
Tehls suspension angle kit (70° of steering lock it's nuts)
Completely stock bottom end on the 6.0 I just found out it is a gen 3 motor with gen 4 internals so ..... it sounds like I should EASILY hit my goal of 600whp with everyday reliability and decant longevity I know nothing lasts for ever but if I can get 2 years out of it I'll be happy
So here's my parts list
Engine
2007 Lq4 with gen 4 internals 90k miles
Dual 0.650 BTR spring kit on 317 heads
Street friendly turbo cam maybe 04 ls6 cam
Ls9 gaskets
Stock heads
Stock rod bolts
Stock head bolts
Stock long block pretty much minus springs
Mellings high vol. Oil pump
ATI super damper
Trans
Stage 1 tick perf. 02 Camaro ss t56
Aluminum flywheel
Centerforce DF clutch with arp hardware
Exhaust
AEM wideband
truck manifolds flipped
2.5 in cross over
3.5 in exhaust out of the hood
2 38mm percision wastegates vented to atmosphere
Intake
Truck 88mm maf or what ever mm they are I prefer to use a maf just to create a rock solid tune
Cx racing 31×12×4 intercooler
3in IC piping
50mm tial bov
Snow performance meth inj.
Professional products 96mm intake ported to 102mm and port matched to heads with rails that came with kit
Nick Willias 102mm tb
Turbo
TC76 0.96 AR journal bearing (I have a question at end of post about this)
8an oil feed liNE
10an return
Fuel system
Deka 80lb inj
2 aeromotive fuel pumps 340lph
10 an fuel feed line
C5 Fpr
91 pump gas
Stock Pcm 04 express van on hp tuners it will be getting dyno tuned by a local shop who has done turbo lsx builds before.
My questions are, with this setup can I make 600whp on 12-15psi (on kill mode)? I plan to run as low as 8psi when the Gf Drives it maybe lower depending on how it hook's. How strong are these gen 3 motors with gen 4 internals ? I know what the gen 3 5.3s can do
Will 550-600whp be reliable and bring years of enjoyment to come ? I want to keep the Rpm's 6,000 or under
Do i have to get the piston rings gapped for my goal ?
Please dont reccomend e85 I know.it's awesome but it's not available any where near me ....... or else I totally would
The car weighs 2700lbs it makes 287/319 as it sits right now on a bone stock 6.0 ran 12.9 in the quarter at 119mph on **** tires
Is the turbo I suggested adequate for my application ? I'm open to suggestions
I am wondering if this turbo has a good spooling sound, I really would like a loud spool I know it has alot to do with the intake setup before the turbo and the exhaust and compressor housing but I've heard a 5.3 with a ebay turbo with no filter on and open Dp and the turbo was pretty much silent on 16lbs sounded NA untill the pull was finished
Is there anything you would change or add to my list ? I'm not really on a budget but I don't want to spend money I don't have to (i.e. forged long block etc) unless it's on the fuel system, I've skimped out on a turbo dsm fuel system and it went how you think it went .... bad went lean and took a dump
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Like I have said I have had the exact turbos on a 6.0 in a Fc....... The 7675 does everything better, yes I mean spool too
Driving a 76mm compressor with that turbine is retarded
Driving a 76mm compressor with that turbine is retarded
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You'll be out of gear fast. At 6800 RPM and 1:1 you'll only be around 118mph. Look into the 8.8 rear swap and get a decent gear in there. Taller tire would help too. Gear and tire made the biggest difference on my FC.
I agree on the turbo... I'm sure you could make 600hp with the TC76, but there are better options. Wish I wouldn't have farted around with T4 dinky wheel turbos at this point. Look into a box stock T6 1.32 S475. Best turbo out there for entry level LS engine IMO @ $640 shipped.
I agree on the turbo... I'm sure you could make 600hp with the TC76, but there are better options. Wish I wouldn't have farted around with T4 dinky wheel turbos at this point. Look into a box stock T6 1.32 S475. Best turbo out there for entry level LS engine IMO @ $640 shipped.
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You'll be out of gear fast. At 6800 RPM and 1:1 you'll only be around 118mph. Look into the 8.8 rear swap and get a decent gear in there. Taller tire would help too. Gear and tire made the biggest difference on my FC.
I agree on the turbo... I'm sure you could make 600hp with the TC76, but there are better options. Wish I wouldn't have farted around with T4 dinky wheel turbos at this point. Look into a box stock T6 1.32 S475. Best turbo out there for entry level LS engine IMO @ $640 shipped.
I agree on the turbo... I'm sure you could make 600hp with the TC76, but there are better options. Wish I wouldn't have farted around with T4 dinky wheel turbos at this point. Look into a box stock T6 1.32 S475. Best turbo out there for entry level LS engine IMO @ $640 shipped.
that car looks pissed
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You'll be out of gear fast. At 6800 RPM and 1:1 you'll only be around 118mph. Look into the 8.8 rear swap and get a decent gear in there. Taller tire would help too. Gear and tire made the biggest difference on my FC.
I agree on the turbo... I'm sure you could make 600hp with the TC76, but there are better options. Wish I wouldn't have farted around with T4 dinky wheel turbos at this point. Look into a box stock T6 1.32 S475. Best turbo out there for entry level LS engine IMO @ $640 shipped.
I agree on the turbo... I'm sure you could make 600hp with the TC76, but there are better options. Wish I wouldn't have farted around with T4 dinky wheel turbos at this point. Look into a box stock T6 1.32 S475. Best turbo out there for entry level LS engine IMO @ $640 shipped.
So, an s475 BW ? Thought that's what alot of people who drag race with autos run ? If it spools quicker than a tc76 and makes just as much power I'll take the advise
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Can’t say it will spool faster. I can say it will make more than enough additional power per pound of boost that I doubt it will matter.
If you want something that will spool fast go with the new SXE366 or SXE369. It’s a Borg S300 series. (smaller) With the new SXE billet wheel design. Basically flows what the big cast 75mm wheel does in a smaller package. Super BA turbo. It’s a 73/80 turbine wheel I believe.
This is just the core, you need to buy the exh. housing too (think it’s $158). Really good deal though IMO. Looks like they are out of 69mm “super cores”.
Here is the 66mm. So like $750ish total.
http://thmotorsports.com/borgwarner/...i-2283234.aspx
If you want something that will spool fast go with the new SXE366 or SXE369. It’s a Borg S300 series. (smaller) With the new SXE billet wheel design. Basically flows what the big cast 75mm wheel does in a smaller package. Super BA turbo. It’s a 73/80 turbine wheel I believe.
This is just the core, you need to buy the exh. housing too (think it’s $158). Really good deal though IMO. Looks like they are out of 69mm “super cores”.
Here is the 66mm. So like $750ish total.
http://thmotorsports.com/borgwarner/...i-2283234.aspx
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Can’t say it will spool faster. I can say it will make more than enough additional power per pound of boost that I doubt it will matter.
If you want something that will spool fast go with the new SXE366 or SXE369. It’s a Borg S300 series. (smaller) With the new SXE billet wheel design. Basically flows what the big cast 75mm wheel does in a smaller package. Super BA turbo. It’s a 73/80 turbine wheel I believe.
This is just the core, you need to buy the exh. housing too (think it’s $158). Really good deal though IMO. Looks like they are out of 69mm “super cores”.
Here is the 66mm. So like $750ish total.
http://thmotorsports.com/borgwarner/...i-2283234.aspx
If you want something that will spool fast go with the new SXE366 or SXE369. It’s a Borg S300 series. (smaller) With the new SXE billet wheel design. Basically flows what the big cast 75mm wheel does in a smaller package. Super BA turbo. It’s a 73/80 turbine wheel I believe.
This is just the core, you need to buy the exh. housing too (think it’s $158). Really good deal though IMO. Looks like they are out of 69mm “super cores”.
Here is the 66mm. So like $750ish total.
http://thmotorsports.com/borgwarner/...i-2283234.aspx
Does anyone have any experience with a s400sx 72 with a 1.10 a/r ? Sounds appealing and from what I've read will spool somewhat decant on a 5.3 but what about a 6.0? The prices of BW units are hard to pass up and they seem like a quality unit with reliability
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If you ever hook the power you should make with that combo the CF clutch will probably disintegrate. I have seen a CF DF clutch break springs and rip apart with barely 550 rwhp on a Mustang dyno. And that was a high winding NA motor making a lot less torque than a turbo 6.0 should.
edit-- BTW, the MAF will max out, so you may as well not use it.
edit-- BTW, the MAF will max out, so you may as well not use it.
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If you ever hook the power you should make with that combo the CF clutch will probably disintegrate. I have seen a CF DF clutch break springs and rip apart with barely 550 rwhp on a Mustang dyno. And that was a high winding NA motor making a lot less torque than a turbo 6.0 should.
edit-- BTW, the MAF will max out, so you may as well not use it.
edit-- BTW, the MAF will max out, so you may as well not use it.