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Is this the correct plumbing of vacuum lines for a single turbo setup?



(turbo, external wastegate, blow off valve, manual boost controller)


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did you read the sticky above?
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
did you read the sticky above?


I'm going to do more research then haha..




I like visual aids; but yes, I did a ton of research and forums are always conflicting with opinions and such. Back to the drawing board.
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What is your main question?
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Originally Posted by Cory51191
I'm going to do more research then haha..




I like visual aids; but yes, I did a ton of research and forums are always conflicting with opinions and such. Back to the drawing board.
I wrote the sticky on vacuum/boost gauge and WG/BOV setup lol. Theres a bunch of pictures in there.
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Reference your BOV to the intake. Reference line from turbo compressor housing to IN port on controller & OUT to bottom of wastegate.
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Cory, I would suggest that you do some research, not just how to set up the vacuum lines, but to understand why you would want a vacuum line on something. Sure you could just follow a diagram, or do what the people are going to suggest to you in this thread, but you really won't understand why you doing this, if you just follow a diagram someone else made up. I give you credit, you did come up with your own, so you are thinking about it. Looking at your diagram, a question you should ask yourself is "What would the purpose of a vacuum line going from the compressor housing to the intake manifold serve?" The vacuum tree is just an extension of your intake manifold for practical purposes. You already have about a 3" line running from the compressor housing to the intake manifold, via the intercooler, and the throttle body. I'm not trying to be condescending, just from personal experience, I don't want to build something, and not really understand how and why it works. That is the best part of our hobby, learning what makes it tick, and how to make it tick faster. Exhaust leaks exempt here though.
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Sorry guys I've been super busy putting this engine together and my buddy and I swapped it on Saturday. I honestly just didn't have time to do any research at the moment but I think I've got it all figured out.







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Looks like that should work fine.
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Would it be safe to tap into the BOV's vacuum line for the 1:1 FPR?
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Won't hurt. I have my FPR seeing vacuum and boost. Seeing vacuum pulls a couple psi out of the base pressure. Contributes to helping with idle fueling, but not absolutely necessary in all cases.
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Originally Posted by 3 window
Won't hurt. I have my FPR seeing vacuum and boost. Seeing vacuum pulls a couple psi out of the base pressure. Contributes to helping with idle fueling, but not absolutely necessary in all cases.
Im at the same place on my build as this guy is and was told from some other racers that they like running the line off the waste gate to the cold air pipe or off the turbo? What is your thoughts on that? Was told they like it that way best because of what was stated already? ( pulls a couple psi out of base)? Just fishing for info before I go either way?
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Hes talking about the fuel pressure regulator being hooked to the intake. It makes fuel pressure go up with boost and will make fuel pressure a little lower under vacuum. Thats what he means by takes a little off the base.

The wastegate should not see vacuum, so it should be sourced before the throttle body. Ie turbo or intercooler pipe
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Originally Posted by Lsxford
Hes talking about the fuel pressure regulator being hooked to the intake. It makes fuel pressure go up with boost and will make fuel pressure a little lower under vacuum. Thats what he means by takes a little off the base.

The wastegate should not see vacuum, so it should be sourced before the throttle body. Ie turbo or intercooler pipe
Okay and thank you.
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not sure what car it's going in, but I would stay off the back of that intake like the plague on an fbody. It's impossible to reach back there for anything.
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Originally Posted by merim123
not sure what car it's going in, but I would stay off the back of that intake like the plague on an fbody. It's impossible to reach back there for anything.


c5z, I hooked up the vacuum lines and the T while the engine was out but honestly it doesn't look too bad back there. I had my hands back there plugging in the MAP sensor and other 2 sensors.
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Originally Posted by Cory51191
c5z, I hooked up the vacuum lines and the T while the engine was out but honestly it doesn't look too bad back there. I had my hands back there plugging in the MAP sensor and other 2 sensors.
lol, i can't do that on an fbody. no way to get my hands back there. i have to pull the intake.
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Originally Posted by merim123
lol, i can't do that on an fbody. no way to get my hands back there. i have to pull the intake.
That's how it was with the FAST 102 on it. Stock LS6 back on it now.
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Originally Posted by Cory51191
Sorry guys I've been super busy putting this engine together and my buddy and I swapped it on Saturday. I honestly just didn't have time to do any research at the moment but I think I've got it all figured out.

This is sketchy.
I've routed my manual boost controller like that and it was very inconsistent. I'd run the bottom port of the WG directly from the turbo, or, if you want a true manifold pressure reading, take it from there instead.
The way you have that plumbed now, your boost controller will be controlled backwards. meaning, you'll need it set it at "Max Pressure" to get the WG spring pressure with the lowest boost setting.
The best way to route that controller is to the top of the WG. Then, you can slightly adjust little by little from there without taking a risk of overboosting your engine.

I blew up my last motor on the dyno because my manual BC was plumbed this way. I should have ran it to the top of the WG instead.
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Originally Posted by Lsxford

The wastegate should not see vacuum, so it should be sourced before the throttle body. Ie turbo or intercooler pipe
Is this true? Why shouldn't the WG see any vacuum? I've always plumbed the WG, boost gauge, and BOV from the manifold, post TB.

I'm always learning, so I'd like to know if there's an issue either way, thanks.

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